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Offline Greenbentley

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Edward & Ellen Griffiths
« on: Saturday 18 April 15 21:12 BST (UK) »
Can anyone please help find  Edward  &  Ellen Griffiths (formerly Bromilow) after 1871
Edward Griffiths was born in Hope Flintshire in 1836 his parents were Edward & Mary Griffiths, Edward married Ellen Bromilow on 19 June 1867 in The Parish Church  Deane  Lancashire, Ellen’s father ‘s name was Joseph Bromilow and Ellen was born about 1848  in Lostock, Lancashire,
I have them on census up to 1871 then can’t find them on any others, they had a daughter I know about and have her birth certificate, on the 1881 census Daughter Ellen Griffiths is with her fathers sister as adopted daughter .

So I am wondering what happen to Edward & Ellen Griffiths I can’t find a death for them or any other census after 1871.
I would appreciate any help with this couple please , I have not been doing my family history for a while so I am a bit rusty.
 
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Flintshire - Griffiths
Lancashire - Parker/ Threlfall
Wiltshire - Green
Oxfordshire - Lee / Martin
Staffordshire - Faulkner /Edwards
Yorkshire - Griffiths/Faulkner/Bentley/Ellis/Green/Walker

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Re: Edward & Ellen Griffiths
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 April 15 22:56 BST (UK) »
The 1871 gives Edwards birthyear as 1839/40 - he is 31

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they had a daughter I know about and have her birth certificate,

What was the daughters name and birthyear/birthplace?  In 1881, is she in England or Wales
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Re: Edward & Ellen Griffiths
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 April 15 23:53 BST (UK) »
His marriage gives 1839 as well. I can't see them in 1881, but can't see any deaths either.
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Re: Edward & Ellen Griffiths
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 April 15 00:30 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can find two Griffiths births with mothers maiden name Bromilow on LancashireBMD

ALBERT E bn 1869 ~ bapt 6 June 1869 ~ think he was buried  23 Jun 1870 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, son of Edward

ELIZABETH bn 1873 ~ there is a burial 20 Mar 1874 aged 8months,  St Mary the Virgin, Deane, daughter of Edward

Very common surname, burials may not be related.

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Re: Edward & Ellen Griffiths
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 April 15 07:48 BST (UK) »
You might want to check this out
Baptism: 6 Jun 1869 St George, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Alled Edward Griffiths - Son of Edward Griffiths & Ellen
    Abode: Bolton
    Occupation: Joiner
    Baptised by: F Brindley Curate

as Deane is Bolton area - this baptism may be a possible ??
AARouteplanner has Deane to Bolton = 2 miles
ADDED- I think it is a son because of same occupation
Marriage: 19 Jun 1867 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England
Edward Griffiths - 28, Joiner, Bachelor, Rumworth
Ellen Bromilow - 19, Spinster, Great Bolton
    Groom's Father: Edward Griffiths, Farmer
    Bride's Father: Joseph Bromilow, Inn Keeper
    Witness: John Ridyard; Mary Bromilow
ADDED again - ClaireT has already posted this baptism as Albert Edward - as Aled is a Welsh name I wonder ??....checking the burial... burial as mentioned by ClaireT
Albert Edward Griffiths 23rd June 1870
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Re: Edward & Ellen Griffiths
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 April 15 09:32 BST (UK) »
I suspect Ellen died in childbirth or shortly after.  Looking back at previous posts daughter Ellen was born in June Qtr 1875 in Barrow in Furness.  There is a death registered for an Ellen Griffiths in the same quarter aged 26 Ulverston Volume 8e page 523.  If you go to www.cumbriabmd.org.uk you will see that both events took place in the sub district of Dalton.

Haven`t found Edward though

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Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Edward & Ellen Griffiths
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 April 15 10:29 BST (UK) »
Could just be that he couldn't cope with a baby and so relatives took her in as their own. He may well have moved and remarried by 1881.
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Re: Edward & Ellen Griffiths
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 April 15 12:11 BST (UK) »

In the Manchester Times dated 25th February, 1898 under "Missing Friends"

GRIFFITHS - Edward Griffiths, when last heard of was living in Barrow in Furness.  The inquirer is his niece Ellen Griffiths.

I saw that Ellen said her father was deceased when she married so perhaps none of the family knew where he went to. 

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Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Edward & Ellen Griffiths
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 April 15 12:27 BST (UK) »
That's interesting as Ellen Griffiths was actually his daughter and not his niece wasn't she? I wonder if he emigrated? Whatever happened, it doesn't sound as if he kept in touch with either his daughter or family.
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