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WW1 Sailor -Please can anyone tell which Navy?
« on: Friday 10 April 15 20:43 BST (UK) »
This is a photo of my great uncle John Richard Gough who died whilst on a ship in Canada in 1918. Please can anyone tell if the uniform is Merchant or Royal Navy?

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Tess

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Re: WW1 Sailor -Please can anyone tell which Navy?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 April 15 21:03 BST (UK) »
l would put my money on Royal Navy (Sunday Dress ) and a stoker to boot, being a former bootneck I could be wrong best wait for conformation from a jolly jack.
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Re: WW1 Sailor -Please can anyone tell which Navy?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 April 15 21:17 BST (UK) »
Tess
If he died in 1918 whilst still serving he should be on CWGC...I can't see him though?
Any other info? uniform looks pre ww1.He MAY have transferred to Mercantile Marine and their CWGC commemorated have different criteria....Or he may have been missed.
Do you have his RN Record from the NA?

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Re: WW1 Sailor -Please can anyone tell which Navy?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 April 15 21:23 BST (UK) »
The National Archives have an entry  in the Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services for a John Richard Gough, born 1882 at Larne.  Is this your man?


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: WW1 Sailor -Please can anyone tell which Navy?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 April 15 21:26 BST (UK) »
Yes that is him but don't know if this picture is him. If the uniform is Royal Navy then it likely is him. Please can you send me the link to the archives on him.
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Tess

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Re: WW1 Sailor -Please can anyone tell which Navy?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 April 15 21:30 BST (UK) »
According to deaths at sea he was a donkeyman, he died 2 November 1918 St John's Newfoundland, cause of death influenza and pneumonia.



Should have added his ship was the Canadier.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
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EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: WW1 Sailor -Please can anyone tell which Navy?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 April 15 21:42 BST (UK) »
Hi, as far as I can see he is definitely RN going by the collar and the black silk and white lanyard he is wearing.

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Re: WW1 Sailor -Please can anyone tell which Navy?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 10 April 15 21:51 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Tess61 on Friday 10 April 15 21:26 BST (UK)
Yes that is him but don't know if this picture is him. If the uniform is Royal Navy then it likely is him. Please can you send me the link to the archives on him.
Thanks
Tess

The link:  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6767729


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: WW1 Sailor -Please can anyone tell which Navy?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 10 April 15 22:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone. Was the canadier a Royal Navy ship? Have looked at national archives but they charge 3.30 to view the record so I'll do that tomorrow. Could the people on the photo part of the forum date the photo?
That would confirm if it is in fact John Richard.

Thanks again everyone.
Tess
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