Where Am I? No 12

[Spidermonkey]

Here you go Scouseboy:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=16&lat=53.1855&lon=-3.3162&layers=171&right=BingHyb

I am not sure if the location of your nursing home as suggested by Google is completely accurate, but you will see there is nothing on that site on this map.

Added: I see google's suggested location was not accurate and I have discovered the entrance to the nursing home right beside the church. And yes, there is a structure on the site on the old map.
The layout of that house as it existed then and as it exists now does not bear any resemblance to Caz's house. (Image of nursing home was posted earlier by Jen I believe)

I'm giving this up now (I should have done so ages ago  ). I feel like too much time has been spent trying to prove you wrong Scouseboy, when it would be better spent trying to find the true location of the house.

Thank you for that link.   I had to move the position slightly  to locate Fron Yw.

The drive up to Fron Yw  starts adjacent to the Church, but the drive is perhaps 500 yards long, and leads to other properties as well.

I have got a photo   with the caption  "Rebuilding Vron Yw c.1906 to its present form"

It seems to me that one of the things they were changing is the main entrance to the house from the back to the front.          They re-cycled some of the window frames from the old house to the new house.  My photo  shows about 24 men working on the site.

Please can we see this photo (or email it to Cazza so that she can verify it for us)

[Rhododendron]

That little dog in the original photo must be laughing its head off at us all trying to puzzle out where this wretched house is!  I log in several times a day in the hope that the puzzle has been solved! 

[cazza59]

I've posted the map to show that Scouseboy genuinely believes this is the house and has gone to the trouble of getting this map emailed from the archives (email is dated 9 July), although I think just having a quick read through the comments,  there is enough evidence provided by other Rootschatters to show that this is not the right location.

From the very little I know and have recently read, I assume this house is arts and crafts style which dates it from 1880 to 1900ish, this fact alone rules out Scouseboy's theory.

I appreciate the time and effort that he has put into the search and he has certainly gone the extra mile, however I think it's time to concede once and for all,  that as much as we would like it to be, this is not "Cazza's House". 

Caz

[groom]

            I appreciate the time and effort that he has put into the search and he has certainly gone the extra mile, however I think it's time to concede once and for all,  that as much as we would like it to be, this is not "Cazza's House".                                   

I agree Caz. We now need to turn our attention to finding where it is/was, rather than trying to prove where it isn't.

[ScouseBoy]

Scouseboy. Are you saying that this map shows Caz's house in it's grounds?

If so can you please highlight which of the pink bits on the map show:

The tower
The greenhouse
The low building behind the greenhouse
The house with the gable
The actual house with flat fronted section and bayed section

.      If you take the middle "house" on the latest map from Cazza as now demolished .
The remaining property on the right,  I think the square in the corner relates to the square gabled  part on the left of cazzas photo.
To repeat, my relative has until recently lived in the nursing home, and in fact her funeral was in the nearby church at the end of the drive. 

[Ruskie]

Which middle house?
Which square in which corner?

Your relative, I'm afraid is irrelevant, to the search.

Added: Actually don't bother answering those questions.

[despair]

I don't know how useful it may be in the circumstances but Denbighshire Archives apparently holds a 1793 pen and wash image of Vron Yw and Llangwyfan Church.I can't find the image online,but if this is still rumbling on later in the week,I could visit the archives to try to obtain a copy or,possibly visit the site to try to take photographs.I am approx. 12-15 miles away.

Regards
Roger

[Ruskie]

Right. Now lets get looking (again) for this darned mystery house.

I'm sticking by my estimate of a house built just before or around the 1920s. I'd say the photo is pretty good quality so probably taken more recently.

I agree with those who've suggested that it looks to be in a style located in the southern part of England.

[JohninSussex]

Yesterday I read through some of the earlier threads, and it was striking that most of the images in the original set were linked to the Clifton-Brown and related families.

As this house isn't a big country house like some of those others, I wondered if it might be a house on one of those estates.  Actually if so, and especially if it no longer exists, there may be no photos on the web of the house, and if it is still standing it may be not visible from a public place so no pics from Geograph, Street View etc to help out.

It seemed that Cazza was contacting some Moon relatives and I presume there has been no response from the famliy concerned?