Where Am I? No 12

[cazza59]

The possible significance of the Great Western Railway  is it could be the link we have been looking for  on  a batch of the photographs.

Sorry to dissuade you from this line of thinking, but any link this photo may have had is to the very first WAIs and as you can see if you refer to Pat's WAI maps, most of the finds were dotted all over the countryside and in no way were centred around the GWR.

[John915]

Good evening,

Just had to spend some time catching up on this from my last post on, several late nights at work. There is no way that Cazza's picture and ScouseBoys option are the same house.

Look at the area around it, full of fully grown DECIDUOUS trees, no sign whatsoever of any Scots Pines as in Cazza's pic. It has no tower, no greenhouse and no large building to rear right.

Perhaps they were demolished in the 1700s or have run off with someones marbles.

This house is nowhere near Wales, now or 400 years ago.

I don't know whether I drive further at work or on google maps but I look for this house on both. Every time I see some lonely Scots Pines I have palpitations until I see no house or wrong house.

John915

[ScouseBoy]

The house in Cazzas photograph  no longer exists.

[Mike in Cumbria]

The house in Cazzas photograph  no longer exists.

We don't know that.


You still haven't answered these:

That's a good idea.

Could there be a link through the "Great Western Railway"

Hi Scouseboy

Before you start another red herring, could we go back to my questions?

Do you think that the house in Cazza's photo was built in the 17th century?

Do you agree that side of the house (indicated by my dotted blue line) on the Ordnance survey map shows a completely different line to the one on Cazza's house?

The answer to these is completely basic to your theory. The Great Western Railway is not.

Mike

[groom]

The house in Cazzas photograph  no longer exists.

You keep making statements Scouseboy but have given us no proof.

[ScouseBoy]

Something else has just occurred to me - apologies if it's been mentioned before.

Someone pointed out the half-hipped roof on the building behind; when I lived in Sussex I felt this style was much more prevalent there and in surrounding counties than in other parts of the country. However, the bay windows seem to have the opposite: hipped below and a vertical gable end above. That strikes me as quite unusual, so is there a name for it that we could search with?

Arthur

  I believe the building behind is the Coach House and Stables.

[ScouseBoy]

Good evening,



Look at the area around it, full of fully grown DECIDUOUS trees, no sign whatsoever of any Scots Pines as in Cazza's pic. It has no tower, no greenhouse and no large building to rear right.






John915

The Ordnance Survey map of 1888 to 1913  specifically shows Pine trees (coniferous)  in a similar  location to those which are visible in Cazzas photo.

[Ruskie]

Someone pointed out the half-hipped roof on the building behind; when I lived in Sussex I felt this style was much more prevalent there and in surrounding counties than in other parts of the country. However, the bay windows seem to have the opposite: hipped below and a vertical gable end above. That strikes me as quite unusual, so is there a name for it that we could search with?

Arthur

 

I think they are unusual too Arthur. The taller building looks like a house. You can see windows and curtains on the upper level. The lower building has a tiled roof and skylights of some sort. I'm not sure what that might be.

The two dwellings may be near neighbours, but perhaps the lower building with the skylights may be in the grounds of or attached to the mystery house - as an extension or outbuilding. It appears closer than the house with the hipped roof.

[ScouseBoy]

Question 1   No, I would not agree.     One face of the house in the photo does match with one side of the plan on the OS   map.

This face you mean? Marked by the blue dotted line?  It is nothing like Cazza's house.

The red arrows indicate the direction that the photo would have had to be taken from to include the bank and sunken area in the foreground. The OS map shows the shape of the 17th century house - can you make that match the shape of Cazza's house? Also you haven't said whether you genuinely think Cazza's house was built in the 17th century (it clearly wasn't!)

Mike

PS it would be so much easier if the mystery house WAS Cazza's actual house - she could tell us where it was!

  The most illuminating point about those two side by side plan and current satellite image is that  the main entrance  and access path   has been changed  completely.  You can still  see faintly in the field the trace of the old access path