Where Am I? No 12

[Ruskie]

Scouseboy, we need to see the picture you are referring to in your mystery library book.

Can you tell us:
- the NAME of this book
- the page number (even if approximate) that the photo appears on
- give us a contact name and email address for a librarian.
I will contact them directly myself and request that they forward me a copy of this image. That way you don't need to concern yourself with copyright or going out of your way to 're-find' this.

I get the impression that you may not know how to scan or provide a copy of this photo. That is fine - please just let us know if you don't know how to do this, because it seems like you are trying to hide something by not providing the image, whereas if you admit that doing so is beyond your capabilities, then we will understand.

As you may have gathered, many of is think that you are wrong in your theory about the location of this house and if you refuse to provide the above information to support your theory, I think this will confirm to is all that you are, for some unknown reason, spinning us a tale/winding us up etc.

So, I await the details of the book so we can move ahead with this. 

[Jool]

Hi Scouseboy, I too cannot see any resemblance between the house you have suggested and the house in Cazza's picture.  If you can do as Ruskie has suggested then we can see the photo for ourselves and make a better judgement of whether we feel it is a match or not.  At the moment we only have your gut-feeling and no visual evidence/proof of your suggestion.

If you need any help with techie stuff, uploading etc. we are happy to help you with that, 

[DavidG02]

I think John915 commented on the need for a tower and gave the good suggestion of racetrack/racing stables etc.

I have found another use which seems to have literally been to '' keep an eye on the extensive property''

I visited Daw Park Hopsital last night and saw a tower ( this one open due to our marvellous weather all year round    ) that was built after 1915.

This was originally a private property full of vines and horses and hay etc so a good eye was needed.

Its interesting that all of the early comments about this being a private property impressed by military then turned into hospital/convalescent are all themes which run through this section of land. 

http://dhhf.org.au/about/history/

*by the way please keep on ''discussing'' vroom vroom , I will keep looking 

[cazza59]

PS it would be so much easier if the mystery house WAS Cazza's actual house - she could tell us where it was!

I have to admit I have a little smile every time I read "Cazza's House". 

Sadly I think we might have to admit that this may be the only photo in existence of "Cazza's House" and that the building is long gone, maybe overseas or has been remodelled beyond recognition.

I love everyone's tenacity but maybe in the in words of the immortal Kenny Rogers perhaps it's time "Know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away, Know when to run"! 

(But then again, to quote the words of Napoleon Hill "A quitter never wins, and a winner never quits!"    Sorry just a tad bored! ).

However, Scouseboy as much as I admire your determination to find WAI 12, I think possibly it is time to concede that we have wandered off track and perhaps if WAI 12 is to continue, we re-focus, analyse some of the very useful descriptive architectural information people have provided, and continue the search based on these criteria, if people still have the inclination.

Me?  I'm off to search for synagogues!   

Caz

[Ruskie]

I've been considering the age of this house again and trying to put a date to it.

Looking at styles of window and porches, it seems to fall somewhere between Edwardian and 1920s.

As others said, this section with the bay windows was possibly added onto an earlier dwelling.

I was also attempting to date the house from the chimneys but couldn't find enough online to do this, however note that the bay windowed 'addition' has a different chimney style to the flat fronted section on the right, which may also indicate that the bay section is a later addition. The large chimney behind the ivy is different again - I  am going to suggest earlier.

Door on the right which is visible looks Victorian in style.

A guide here: http://www.freepedia.co.uk/default.php

[DavidG02]

The Arts and Crafts movement which was mentioned so long ago I forgot by who.  flourished between 1880 and 1910.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arts_and_Crafts_movement

I have looked at various architects and I can see why it was mentioned. Some of the properties DO incorporate styles we see in Number 12

[Ruskie]

I looked at a couple of architects too, but I think the trouble with this house is that it has been added to so may not have been designed from scratch by a particular architect.

Someone earlier in the thread said that they thought the bays were added later. This may be. I wouldn't be surprised if the bay on the right was added to the flat fronted section at a later date to tie in with the new double bayed addition.

The odd thing is that on the right side wall of the doubled bayed section is a Victorian style sash window. Does this mean a bit of money saving reusing an old window, or was that bayed section originally different stylistically? Bays added to modernise it? (Possibly already suggested I think)

[ScouseBoy]

Scouseboy, we need to see the picture you are referring to in your mystery library book.

Can you tell us:
- the NAME of this book
- the page number (even if approximate) that the photo appears on
- give us a contact name and email address for a librarian.
I will contact them directly myself and request that they forward me a copy of this image. That way you don't need to concern yourself with copyright or going out of your way to 're-find' this.

I get the impression that you may not know how to scan or provide a copy of this photo. That is fine - please just let us know if you don't know how to do this, because it seems like you are trying to hide something by not providing the image, whereas if you admit that doing so is beyond your capabilities, then we will understand.

As you may have gathered, many of is think that you are wrong in your theory about the location of this house and if you refuse to provide the above information to support your theory, I think this will confirm to is all that you are, for some unknown reason, spinning us a tale/winding us up etc.

So, I await the details of the book so we can move ahead with this. 

Denbighshire Archives  printed off  two pages from the book for me, and have stamped the back of the photo copy with the instruction:   This copy may not be reproduced without permission in writing from Senior Archivist.

Title of book:   Llandyrnog and Llangwyfan.

A view of the past Historical Society.

[Spidermonkey]

I appreciate that posting the picture to a public forum may not be the appropriate thing to do (with regard to copyright), Scouseboy, so what about scanning it and PM/emailing it to a couple of people (say Cazza and Ruskie for example) so that they can see it?