Where Am I? No 12

[arthurk]

Some of the window frames were re-cycled and  installed in the new house. Hence many of the windows look very similar to those in the old house.

Do you have any proof that the window frames were reused in this way, or is it just a theory? And even supposing they were, they don't look to me to be distinctive or unique enough for us to tie them down to one building only.

[groom]

         
Cazzas Photo  was taken for several reasons. Perhaps one reason would be to assist the builders and the Architect.  Perhaps  the re-build  coincided with a marriage?               

There seem to be an awful lot of "perhaps" in all your answers. Until I'm offered proof rather than theories I will continue to look elsewhere. I still think Southern counties.

[arthurk]

Something else has just occurred to me - apologies if it's been mentioned before.

Someone pointed out the half-hipped roof on the building behind; when I lived in Sussex I felt this style was much more prevalent there and in surrounding counties than in other parts of the country. However, the bay windows seem to have the opposite: hipped below and a vertical gable end above. That strikes me as quite unusual, so is there a name for it that we could search with?

Arthur

[Trishanne]

Arthur, according to some of the pages on Google, this type of gable roof seems to be called  a Dutch gable, or Dutch hip or gablet. I hope you have some luck in finding it.
Pat

[arthurk]

Arthur, according to some of the pages on Google, this type of gable roof seems to be called  a Dutch gable, or Dutch hip or gablet. I hope you have some luck in finding it.
Pat

Thank you, Pat. It's reassuring that my description was good enough for you to know what I was talking about, and even better that you knew the name for it! (Which Google images confirms is correct)

[Little Nell]

So perhaps you can give us the title of the book and the author?  Someone might be able to access a copy too to have a look    Does it give a credit for the photograph?

Also I have asked you if you believe the house in Cazza's photo to be the one that was 17th century in origin, but your replies have not really been definite one way or the other.  So perhaps I am not being clear enough or not asking the right question.

On Cazza's photo, please can you indicate what architectural features are mid 17th century because I cannot see any?

Re the pond allegedly located at the top of the bank behind a wall - don't think so.  Look just to the right of the two bushes at the top of the the flight of steps - there are two equally spaced hemi-spherical stones on top of a sloped wall which I think borders a second set of steps and at the top is a higher terrace with a grass slope up to it.  I can't see that it would be a pond with steps leading up to it like that.

(And apologies to anyone who might already have mentioned this particular feature.)

Nell

[groom]

Re the pond allegedly located at the top of the bank behind a wall - don't think so.  Look just to the right of the two bushes at the top of the the flight of steps - there are two equally spaced hemi-spherical stones on top of a sloped wall which I think borders a second set of steps and at the top is a higher terrace with a grass slope up to it.  I can't see that it would be a pond with steps leading up to it like that.

I've just enlarged the photo and I agree, it isn't a wall, just a grass slope or possibly a low hedge. Look at how it slopes down to the path on the right, a wall wouldn't do that.

[ScouseBoy]

The pond is the narrow but long rectangle  outlined  by something white running alongside the grassy bank,  and about ten yards from the house wall.

Scouseboy.  You don't reply to any of our questions.  Here are four for you - could you please address them? It might help clear things up in your own mind.

1.  Look at the 1888 - 1913 ordnance survey map.  Would you agree that the outline of the house (presumably the pre 1906 house) is of a completely different shape to Cazza's house?

2.   Because of its age, it would also have been a completely different style. (somewhere other, a date of 16th or 17th century was mentioned).  Do you agree with this?

3. Cazza's photo is clearly taken AFTER 1906, so can not possibly be the older house. Do you also agree with this?

4. The photos you posted earlier of Fron Yw shows a somewhat similar house to Cazza's but with so many major differences that it can not be the same house.  Do you agree?

If you seriously still think that Fron Yw is Cazza's house, answering these questions might help us understand why you think so.

Question 1   No, I would not agree.     One face of the house in the photo does match with one side of the plan on the OS   map.

[Mike in Cumbria]

Question 1   No, I would not agree.     One face of the house in the photo does match with one side of the plan on the OS   map.

This face you mean? Marked by the blue dotted line?  It is nothing like Cazza's house.

The red arrows indicate the direction that the photo would have had to be taken from to include the bank and sunken area in the foreground. The OS map shows the shape of the 17th century house - can you make that match the shape of Cazza's house? Also you haven't said whether you genuinely think Cazza's house was built in the 17th century (it clearly wasn't!)

Mike

PS it would be so much easier if the mystery house WAS Cazza's actual house - she could tell us where it was!