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Offline Little Nell

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Re: Where Am I? No 12
« Reply #351 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 21:18 BST (UK) »
I'm sorry ScouseBoy, but I remain unconvinced of your belief.

I realise that I am potentially guilty of a similar conviction in my own beliefs when I repeat what I said in reply 191 (on p 22)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=717629.msg5688971#msg5688971

and reply 285 on p 32

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=717629.msg5690939#msg5690939

the house that you believe this to be was demolished in 1906 and rebuilt to give the building seen here:

http://www.northwalescare.org.uk/caresearch/pages/1896/nursing_homes_in_denbigh

The previous building was 17th century in origin.  Since Cazza's photo does not resemble the current building, you seem to imply that it must be the previous incarnation.  Sorry, but no way is Cazza's photo of a building dating from the 17th century.

The trees surrounding the current house - and shown on older maps, which can be a useful source of extra information - do not match what can be seen on Cazza's photo and there are hundreds of buildings/houses built on a rise above a 'sunken' area of flat ground with steps down to it.  I can think of two properties in the home counties owned by members of my wider family where this is the case.   In fact the High Meadows property link posted by Spidermonkey shows a similar feature.
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Re: Where Am I? No 12
« Reply #352 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 22:28 BST (UK) »
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there are hundreds of buildings/houses built on a rise above a 'sunken' area of flat ground with steps down to it.

I agree, Nell. It is a very common style and I've stayed in a few hotels with grounds like that. So I fail to see how Scouse boy can be basing his evidence on that.
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Re: Where Am I? No 12
« Reply #353 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 23:43 BST (UK) »
Good evening,

I also have to agree with Nell and Groom over ScouseBoys claim. I would also query all the assumptions made that it has to be some form of institution. Just because it has a couple of benches in the garden.

I have 2 benches in my garden but that doesn't make it an institution or school or hotel.

Windblown trees doesn't have to make it a coastal location. Just anywhere on higher ground with stronger prevailing winds and no apparent higher ground behind.

Location wise I don't think it's South Downs. Whilst I can't claim to know every square inch of them, I think a remote clump of Scots pines would stand out in my memory. Certainly not along the top at least. It is though in my opinion rural and perhaps alone.

The Weald, including Ashdown Forest, the Vale of Sussex, Vale of Kent, Surrey Hills are all good contestants for the location. But could also be North Hampshire, Berkshire, Oxfordshire, Hertfordshire, Buckinghamshire to name a few.

Why would someone have a house built, I still believe this is one house and always has been although extended and altered, with an observation tower? It doesn't look like your typical farmhouse so not to look over their prize cattle or whatever.

But what about the racehorse owner/trainer? somewhere to watch out over the gallops. Have checked out parts of the Lambourne area (West Berks).

Maybe just a particularly good view over spectacular countryside.

Because we can't find it on-line doesn't mean it's been demolished, just that we havn't come across it yet or nobody has ever put pictures of it up on-line yet.

If you look at a great many big houses or mansions the "Front Door" is where the drive is. But the "Front" of the house looks out over the gardens or parkland. So I think we are looking at the front of the house and the front door is on the other side as is the approach to the house from the road. Having two or more doors doesn't make it more than one house, just that they wanted to be able to access the gardens from different parts of the house. The one on the left from a main reception room and the other from the main hallway.

Enough of my rambling, just some thoughts but don't give up till the fat lady sings as they say.

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Re: Where Am I? No 12
« Reply #354 on: Thursday 30 July 15 00:28 BST (UK) »
Is this a record?    10,000 hits.

 ;D

No I'm afraid not. Far from it.

I know there are dozens and dozens of other cases but the first that came to my mind (obviously) were my 2010 Nathaniel Bryceson threads. This discussion covered more than 9 threads and some examples of hits on those threads are: over 26,800 - 22,700 - 24,990 etc etc. Just to give you a rough idea ....  :)
Not that number of hits is of any significance and not that it is a competition of any sort ....

To get back on topic. I am with the others who strongly disagree that this house bears any resemblance to your Welsh nursing home. For some reason you seem to be trying to make it fit. I don't understand why you would do that, especially when you are so wrong.

You said you are still looking for 'proof'. Have you managed to find that yet? And I would like to know about the mysterious objects inside the nursing home which lead you to believe that it was once Caz's mystery house.

John915 - I think you make some valid points.  :)


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Re: Where Am I? No 12
« Reply #355 on: Thursday 30 July 15 00:33 BST (UK) »
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there are hundreds of buildings/houses built on a rise above a 'sunken' area of flat ground with steps down to it.

I agree, Nell. It is a very common style and I've stayed in a few hotels with grounds like that. So I fail to see how Scouse boy can be basing his evidence on that.

No groom not just that ... it's the slope as well as objects inside the house apparently ... ::)

Other factors in addition lead me to my belief. I have visited the new build Fron Yw  because my relative lived there.  And  objects inside the house   indicate that the site has been  in use for a long time before 1906.

Perhaps the site of Fron Yw has been in use for a long time before 1906 (the magical date of 1906 is an invention of Scouseboys) - but this is NOT Caz's house!!!!

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Re: Where Am I? No 12
« Reply #356 on: Thursday 30 July 15 05:23 BST (UK) »
The tower could simply have been built as a "retreat" or private sanctuary where you could escape to read, knit or whatever, particularly if there was a view to be enjoyed as well.

Having said that, I think it's a hunting lodge.  ;D

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Re: Where Am I? No 12
« Reply #357 on: Thursday 30 July 15 05:42 BST (UK) »
"I think it's a hunting lodge"

Aye, an how long have we been "hunting" for it now  ??? ??? ???

Too b&*^%y long  :o :o :o

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Re: Where Am I? No 12
« Reply #358 on: Thursday 30 July 15 06:21 BST (UK) »
"I think it's a hunting lodge"

Aye, an how long have we been "hunting" for it now  ??? ??? ???

Too b&*^%y long  :o :o :o

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Malky

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'Tis true!  Perhaps you are right and it is time we threw in the towel!  :)
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Re: Where Am I? No 12
« Reply #359 on: Thursday 30 July 15 06:41 BST (UK) »
"time we threw in the "towel"!"

Towel, don't you mean "tower"  ::) ::) ::)

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