Looking for info on John Bennett

[sami]

Chempat's post with all the names got me thinking.

When Tom first posted we thought John's name was Bennett - but it turned out to be Manley and it seems like he never married Jessie/Jeanette. 

So when Jeanette Bennett married George Fisher in 1904 in Ontario she said she was a spinster in spite of the fact that she already had 3 children and it would have been just as easy to say she was a widow.  So when she says that her parents were Frederick Bennett and Jeanette Richards, perhaps that's also the truth, or the truth as she understood it.

So possibly the births of Herbert and Doris were registered under the surname Bennett after all but not necessarily in the districts they were born.

Has anyone found a baptism for Doris?

sami

[Tomster]

Sami

Given what we have seen so far, I think anything is possible. Again, thanks for the great work on the sleuthing. Looking forward to what comes next.

Tom

[chempat]

Frederick Augustus Manley, who was a younger brother of John Manley, dies in 1918.  He is a widower who has had a 'housekeeper' since 1901.  Probate granted to her.  More than £15,000.  Might be interesting to see if any mention of any other family.
His Mother, Ellen, died in 1883, also a will.

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

[Tomster]

Sami

I have been thinking more about your last post. Maybe Jessie's maiden name is Bennett and maybe she and John Manley took that as their family name and moved to Leeds to escape any revenge from Lavina's family if he hadn't come up with the money he was ordered by the court to pay. If that is the case maybe John and Jessie met in Middlesex. Maybe there is a record of Jessie's family from that area?

Tom

[chempat]

Tom,

John Manley was living with his first wife, Lavinia in Leeds in 1881, with children, so he was not hiding up there. He had a job there.

I think we have been looking for Jessie/Jeanette Bennetts in Sydenham etc

Any progress with recollections of names of Jessie's sisters?

[Tomster]

I have never heard them mentioned. Maybe they will show up on Jessie's Obit.

[sami]

I have never heard them mentioned. Maybe they will show up on Jessie's Obit.

....if there was one - there wasn't one for George Fisher (23 Dec 18 1933).

I'm wondering how Sandra has done with May McPherson?

I've done a bit of looking but have found it quite confusing. However, a Mamie McPherson was a witness at Doris's marriage to Frederick Wade in 1912. Frederick's mother maiden name is typed Cosline but I'm wondering if it should be Gosline. There was a 1905 Vancouver marriage between a Mary Gosline (born 1870 New Brunswick) and John P. McPherson and also an 1896 Ontario marriage between a Mary Ann McKinnon (born 1871 Ontario) and John McPherson.

The Mary from the 1905 marriage died in Vancouver in 1940 - but there was no obituary.
The Mary Ann from the 1896 marriage died in Vancouver in 1948 - I'll look for her obituary.

So as it stands now I'll go to the library tomorrow and look for:

Jeanette (or Jessie) Fisher - 02 Jan 1917 Vancouver
Sandra's - Jeanette Fisher - 06 Jul 1933 Victoria
Mary Ann McPherson - 15 Jul 1948 Vancouver.

If anyone can think of any other obits that might give us a bit more information let me know.

sami

[*Sandra*]

Hi Sami,

Mary McPherson (Aunt) to Frederick Wade - was Mary Ann Gosselin, she was the sister to  Fredericks mother Emily Kathleen Gosselin (who had married George Augustas Wade) Mary and Emily Gosselin were the children of Clement Gosselin and Alice Walsh.
Mary Ann McPherson was the one that passed away 8 th February 1940.
I didn't see any further clues from that line of research unfortunately.

Regards
Sandra

[sami]

Hi Tom:

Had a look at Jessie's death notice today. The notice appeared for 2 days running in both The Vancouver Sun and The Daily Province but unfortunately didn't contain any useful information:

"The death occurred Jan 2nd of Jeanette Fisher late of 611 7th Avenue. The remains are resting at Grate & Co's private chapel, 262 Kingsway from where the funeral will take place Thursday afternoon at 2 o'clock. The Rev. Rennie officiating. Internment Mountain View Cemetery."

Sandra - I'll send you a PM with your information.

sami