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Re: Looking for info on John Bennett
« Reply #63 on: Sunday 12 April 15 20:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Sami/Chempat

I would put my money on Manley provided by Doris (my great aunt) rather than Manuel provided by Timothy (my grandfather). Timothy had a way of not being accurate about his families info.

I had thought John/Jessie had changed names when they came to Canada and followed that up by looking at passenger lists recorded in England. At that point they declared themselves as Bennett. I too thought of Manley but did not follow that up. Great job you are doing, I can't wait to see where this may lead.

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« Reply #64 on: Sunday 12 April 15 20:31 BST (UK) »
OK.

So in 1871 they are just married
Parish  Islington St George   St George  London
Reg district  Islington   Islington West
70   107     274  67      35
John Manley   21  Insurance Agent  St Pancras, Middlesex,
Lavinia J Manley   22  Bedford
and a monthly nurse.

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« Reply #65 on: Sunday 12 April 15 20:50 BST (UK) »
You really need to get their marriage certificate for confirmation of his Father, but this looks like him:
1851 census
Parish  St Pancras
Street address: 31 Harrington Square (??)
Reg. dist.  Pancras     Somers Town
   2  81   1496   69      26
John Manley   33  Head    member of the royal college of surgeons   St Pancras
Ellen Manley   31  wife   Holborn
Orlando Manley  son   2
xxxx John Manley   son 1  St Pancras
Joseph Manley   69  Father  Superannuated clerk of victuallers  Office Somerset Place born Devonport Devon
Mary Manley   67  Mother   born Spalding Lincolnshire
2 servants

They are in Brighton in 1861.

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« Reply #66 on: Sunday 12 April 15 20:52 BST (UK) »
Lavina Sophia Gilliam Manley divorced John Manley for cruelty -  petition filed 4 th March 1885 - final decree 3 November 1885 - quite a few pages of court minutes

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« Reply #67 on: Sunday 12 April 15 21:03 BST (UK) »
John Manley born 19th February 1850, baptised 28th September 1851, father John, surgeon, mother Ellen.

Added:That date of birth agrees with John Bennett's birth date on 1901 census.

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« Reply #68 on: Sunday 12 April 15 21:19 BST (UK) »
Just noticed that Joseph and Mary (79 and 77)( he is retired from civil service), are also in Brighton in 1861.

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« Reply #69 on: Sunday 12 April 15 21:36 BST (UK) »
Baptism of John Manley
12 Nov 1817  Father Joseph Manley (victualler's office)
Mother Mary Manley
Parish of St Pancras  Camden

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« Reply #70 on: Sunday 12 April 15 21:43 BST (UK) »
London Workhouse Admissions - 6 February 1886 - Kensington and Chelsea - 6 th February 1886
(Source:- Britten Street, Old and New Workhouses, 1885-1886)
7th week of the quarter ending March 1886 - Lavina Manley aged 36 years. Edith Manley aged 14 years. John Manley aged 12 years. Henry aged 8 years.

Next Page - Discharged to Infirmary

Lavina 36 - Henry 8 - Maud 7 - Arthur 5 and Ellen 5/12

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Re: Looking for info on John Bennett
« Reply #71 on: Monday 13 April 15 03:51 BST (UK) »
Reading these details about John Manley makes me wonder if he didn't die before Jessie married George Fisher in 1904 but just up and left - leaving Jessie and the children behind. Be interesting to see when, where, and under what name his death is recorded.

Have been looking into possible Jessie's and have been wondering about this one. Haven't really found anything using the names Jeanette or Jennette.

1881 Census - RG11 / 710 / 83 / 14
Edward Whyatt
Ellen Whyatt - wife - 21 - dressmaker - Surrey Bermondsey
Eugene - son - 7 mo
Kate Richardson - sister in law - unm - 16 - Surrey Bermondsey
Jessie Richardson - sister in law - unm - 14 - Surrey Camberwell
+ 3 Boarders

1871 Census - RG10 / 726 / 37 / 67
James Richardson - H - Widow - 52 - born 1818 - Traveller - Westmorland
Helen M M Richardson - Dau - 11 - born 1860 - Surrey
Alice A Richardson - Dau - 8 - born 1863 - Surrey
Kate M Richardson - Dau - 6 - born 1865 - Surrey
Jessie Richardson - Dau - 4 - born 1867 - Surrey

But there are so many Richards/Richardsons to choose from it needs some other information to help narrow it down. Do you have any ideas Tom on why they travelled under the surname Bennett? Or why Jeanette lists her parents as Frederick Bennett and Jeanette Richards when she married George Fisher in 1904?
England:  Archer, Bailey, Bates, Blower, Bosworth, Court, Hicklin, Orton, Palmer, Robbins, Sedgwick, Smith, Stevenson, Stone, Varnam, Wakelin, Walker
Canada:  Archer, Walker, Spencer, Shepherd
Australia:  Taplin
South Africa:  Risley