Looking for info on John Bennett

[*Sandra*]

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01f51/ 


http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7983278

Sandra

[sami]

Definitely not an 'amicable divorce' - thanks for posting those Sandra.

I'm no longer sure where or what to look for.

I've looked on the 1906, 1911, 1916 and 1921 Canda census for any likely John Manley/Bennett names. Unfortunately there too many to choose from.

Wondered if he moved back to the UK and died there as John Manley/Bennett. Again too many to choose from.

Started looking for Herbert (1888/89) birth registrations as either Bennett/Manley/Richards/Richardsons - again too many but I thought some Herbert Richardsons in Yorkshire might work.

Started looking for Doris (1891/92/93) birth registrations under the various name combinations but too many again to choose from.

I'm stumped.

sami

[*Sandra*]

Hi Sami,

It was interesting reading through those Court Minutes - obviously the John Manley ones came first so your thinking - oh perhaps it wasn't his fault the marriage brohe down but then you carry on and read the reply and it turns into "tit for Tat".  Think they really had to prove things in those days compared with divorce today.

John Manley also had to pay into the Court various amounts of money for the Petitioner and his own legal fees.

Regards
Sandra

[sami]

Birth Dates were Herbert 9 July 1890 and Doris 1 January 1892
Sandra

I don't think we can go by these exact dates - the 1891 UK census implies Herbert is born 1889. But who knows.

It can't have been easy for Lavinia - I see she is still living in 1911 (with her son Arthur).

So he was free to marry Jessie after 1886 - but didn't. Says something about him.

[*Sandra*]

The Canadian Attestation Papers/California Death Index/WW2 Draft/Naturalization Records were consistent and all give the 9 July 1890 for Herbert 
11 July 1889 on the 1901 Canadian Census.

Many woman didn't like to say they were divorced or widowed and often still claimed to be married, perhaps they felt it was a stigma.

Sandra

[chempat]

I asked what Tomster thought was the most likely birth dates for Herbert and Doris.

The Canadian 1901 census has the same birthday for John Bennett as for John Manley from his baptism, and Herbert is 11 July 1889 on that Canada census.
If Herbert was definitely born in Leeds, as Herbert, on 11 July 1889 OR 11 July 1890, it would be one way of trying to find him.

[*Sandra*]

See Tomster reply 44 - he gives the birth dates on that reply 

Doris was born January 1 1892 in Leeds,

URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=bmd%2fb%2f1892%2f3%2faz%2f00
0045%2f354&_ga=1.152197562.221939020.1417558438

And Herbert was born 9 Jul 1890 in Leeds

URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.com/record?id=bmd%2fb%2f1890%2f1%2faz%2f00
0046%2f133

Would be interesting to find if there was any newspaper reports on the assaults between John Manley and Lavina - the police were supposedly called on at least one occasion.

Sandra

[chempat]

July 8th, 1890 birth date. (written in margin)

Baptism February 8th 1891, Herbert Mauley, 4 Lamston Street, Insurance Manager, John and Jessie.

West Yorkshire Births and Baptisms

[sami]

July 8th, 1890 birth date. (written in margin)

Baptism February 8th 1891, Herbert Mauley, 4 Lamston Street, Insurance Manager, John and Jessie.

West Yorkshire Births and Baptisms

Wonderful That should lead to a birth reg.

.......added.....except I can't find it