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Re: James William Kelly emigration to NZ from Scotland ...when and how etc
« Reply #18 on: Friday 29 April 16 09:03 BST (UK) »
I see he has been online today so he may reply soon

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Re: James William Kelly emigration to NZ from Scotland ...when and how etc
« Reply #19 on: Friday 29 April 16 09:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks Janette

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Re: James William Kelly emigration to NZ from Scotland ...when and how etc
« Reply #20 on: Friday 29 April 16 09:39 BST (UK) »
Not my blood line. I must have been trying to help a friend by asking for data on rootschat on his/her behalf.... but, sorry, I cannot for the life of me remember who that friend was. ... old age does not come alone ... I'm 76 .... Och!
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Re: James William Kelly emigration to NZ from Scotland ...when and how etc
« Reply #21 on: Friday 29 April 16 09:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks for getting back - I know what you mean about 'old age not coming alone:-).  The friend you were helping is asking one the of the same questions I have been trying to find an answer to for years ie exactly when did Jame William Kelly arrive in New Zealand?  His death certificate indicates that he arrived in the mid 1860s.  I have since written a family history about James William Kelly and Mary Ann Carroll (my great grand parents) and know great deal  - except when he arrived in NZ!

It's the usual story; oh how I wished I had asked these questions of my grandfather - his son.  He lived until he was 98!

Thanks again
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Re: James William Kelly emigration to NZ from Scotland ...when and how etc
« Reply #22 on: Friday 29 April 16 12:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Janet,

Have you found JW on any census which may give a year of immigration?

Did he have siblings who emigrated & may be easier to find which may help?

What was his occupation on the earliest records you have of him prior to & after immigration?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: James William Kelly emigration to NZ from Scotland ...when and how etc
« Reply #23 on: Friday 29 April 16 12:50 BST (UK) »
Found this but doesn't tell much....

A Return of the Freeholders of New Zealand, October 1882 Transcription

First Name   J W
Last Name   Kelly
Gender Unknown
Title   -
Occupation   -
Address   -
Country Lands County 1   Southland
Country Lands Acres 1   137
Country Lands Value 1   275
Total Value in ?   275
Year   1882
Country   New Zealand
Record set   New Zealand Land Records
Category   Census, land & surveys
Subcategory   Land & estates
Collections from   Australasia

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: James William Kelly emigration to NZ from Scotland ...when and how etc
« Reply #24 on: Friday 29 April 16 21:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie

Thank you for the information regarding J W Kelly from Southland New Zealand; unfortunately (and just to confuse things) he is a different James William Kelly who was a politician in New Zealand. Thanks also for your suggestions - I have looked at ever possible angle and shipping list.  It is possible that he has come via Australia as many did and of course the name James Kelly is so common it doesn't help my search.

Thanks for you interest- it is appreciated.

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Janet

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Re: James William Kelly emigration to NZ from Scotland ...when and how etc
« Reply #25 on: Friday 29 April 16 21:14 BST (UK) »
I couldn't find a James W Kelly on immigration lists for Australia/New Zealand......possibly didn't use his middle initial?

However, there were no details on any I looked at to give any clues (transcriptions) so could have been any of a few.

I opened 2 with actual photo's & it seems they have the wrong list with both as there was no-one named Kelly on either  ::)

You haven't said if you have any of these....

Have you found JW on any census which may give a year of immigration?

Did he have siblings who emigrated & may be easier to find which may help?

What was his occupation on the earliest records you have of him prior to & after immigration?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: James William Kelly emigration to NZ from Scotland ...when and how etc
« Reply #26 on: Friday 29 April 16 22:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosinish,

I had a quick check on Papers Past last night and found a couple of James KELLY's arriving at New Zealand ports. And there was James KELLY listed in an uncollected mail column which i think was 1862.

paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

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