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Re: Gloucester Prison
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 02 April 15 21:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much. Its very exciting

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Re: Gloucester Prison
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 09 April 15 15:17 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Okay, I didn't have enough time to check the prison records, but I did check the Gloucestershire Chronicle record.
Source: Glos Archives (GA) 1911 83 44005, Page 7, Gloucestershire Chronicle, February 25, 1911.
HARDWICKE REFORMATORY INCORRIGIBLES
Sentence of twelve and nine months' hard labour were passed respectively upon Richard HAGGETT (18) and Walter TAYLOR (18), both youths from Hardwicke Reformatory, who were charged with burglary at Mr George PARSONS' house in Quedgely, from which, on January 15th, they stole 15s 81/2d. in money, and some small articles. Mr J.H. BLOOD prosecuted. This was the second occasion on which the lads had broken out of the Reformatory, and the Judge said that their report showed them to be perfectly ingorrigible.
There are NO prison arrivals records, but there is another source called Prisoner Records. I have pre-ordered 3 files for scrutiny on my next visit and will transcribe what I find and get back to you.
Victor
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Re: Gloucester Prison
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 09 April 15 16:17 BST (UK) »
May I ask, Victor Harvey, whether the Penitentiary records add any detail about the offender over and above those included in the commital and trial proceedings at The Assizes. Date was 1830.
Griffiths Llandogo, Mitcheltroy, Mon. and Whitchurch Here (Also Edwards),  18th C., Griffiths FoD 19th Century.

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Re: Gloucester Prison
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 09 April 15 18:01 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I don't know what data the GA prisoner records hold, but will transcribe what I find and get back to you after my next visit to GA on Saturday. As stated, I have pre-ordered the 3 files.
Victor
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PORTER, Gunmakers of Whitechapel
ALLEN - Blockley, BOWLES - Notgrove, BURROWS - Sevenhampton, COOK - Notgrove, DRINKWATER-LUNN - Aston Cross, FARDON - Temple Guiting, FAULKNER - Cheltenham, GADEN, GAYDEN, GAYDON, GRINHAM - Cheltenham, HART - Stow-on-the-Wold, LANE - Staverton, MOABY - Coln St Aldwyns, STAITE - Temple Guiting, TIMBRELL - Winchcombe, TYSOE - Warks & Glos, WHITFORD - Stanway, WINTLE - Forest of Dean, WYNNIATT - Stanway


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Re: Gloucester Prison
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 April 15 13:54 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Source: Glos Archives (GA) Q/Gc/12/21, Page 7, Register Number 686
HAGGETT, Richard
Date & Place of Conviction - 14/10/1909, Wheatenhurst
Offence - Absconding from Reformatory School
Sentence - 6 weeks hard labour
Education - III
Age - 16
Height - 5' 3 1/4"
Hair - Dark Brown
Trade - Labourer
Religion - C 0f E
Birth Place - Newport, Mon
Date of Discharge of Expiration of Sentence - 24/11/1909
Date of Discharge of Expiration on Remission - 19/11/1909
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PORTER, Gunmakers of Whitechapel
ALLEN - Blockley, BOWLES - Notgrove, BURROWS - Sevenhampton, COOK - Notgrove, DRINKWATER-LUNN - Aston Cross, FARDON - Temple Guiting, FAULKNER - Cheltenham, GADEN, GAYDEN, GAYDON, GRINHAM - Cheltenham, HART - Stow-on-the-Wold, LANE - Staverton, MOABY - Coln St Aldwyns, STAITE - Temple Guiting, TIMBRELL - Winchcombe, TYSOE - Warks & Glos, WHITFORD - Stanway, WINTLE - Forest of Dean, WYNNIATT - Stanway

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Re: Gloucester Prison
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 April 15 14:34 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Source: Glos Archives (GA) Q/Gc/12/22, Page 208, Register Number 1029
HAGGETT, Richard
Date & Place of Committal - 17/01/1911, Gloucester, R to 21st
Date & Place of Conviction - Assizes 15/02/1911
Offence - Burglary
Sentence - 12 months
Education - 3
Age - 17 11/12
Height - 5' 3 1/2"
Hair - Dark Brown
Trade - Labourer
Religion - C of E
Birth Place - Newport, Mon
Number of Previous Convictions - 6
Reference to last Entry - 132/D (1 Reformatory, Hardwicke)
Date of Discharge on Expiration of Sentence - 14/02/1912
Date of Discharge on Remission of Sentence - 17/12/1911
Remarks - Not treated as J.A.
Victor
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PORTER, Gunmakers of Whitechapel
ALLEN - Blockley, BOWLES - Notgrove, BURROWS - Sevenhampton, COOK - Notgrove, DRINKWATER-LUNN - Aston Cross, FARDON - Temple Guiting, FAULKNER - Cheltenham, GADEN, GAYDEN, GAYDON, GRINHAM - Cheltenham, HART - Stow-on-the-Wold, LANE - Staverton, MOABY - Coln St Aldwyns, STAITE - Temple Guiting, TIMBRELL - Winchcombe, TYSOE - Warks & Glos, WHITFORD - Stanway, WINTLE - Forest of Dean, WYNNIATT - Stanway

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Re: Gloucester Prison
« Reply #15 on: Friday 17 April 15 22:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much, you have brought him to life in many ways. I was always told stories of him, and his escapades, being rather short he was stocky and made up for his height by being a comical man. He was renowned around these parts for his tall stories yet he was acknowledged as a gentleman, Eventually.
Thank you again I'll show this to my mum, at 87yrs it'll be something she would enjoy reading. She loved her dad, as did the other 5 children he went on to have with his wife.

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Re: Gloucester Prison
« Reply #16 on: Friday 24 April 15 11:38 BST (UK) »
franpow,

I don't know where you're based, but I thought you might like to see a photo of Gloucester Prison (no longer in use and just sitting empty).  I visited Gloucester, and the Forest of Dean, back in October 2014 for some of my family history research.  My great-grandfather was committed to prison for one month's hard labour in November 1922 for not paying money towards the upkeep of my great-grandmother, who was living in Westbury Workhouse.  I've assumed it was Gloucester where he was sent, but this is something to follow up properly at some point. 

Victor - a quick "hello" - you were kind enough to look at workhouse records for me in Gloucester Archives as I didn't have time to look at everything when I visited. 
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Re: Gloucester Prison
« Reply #17 on: Friday 24 April 15 14:05 BST (UK) »
Hi franpow & JaneyH_104,
It is my intention to check the photograph records of prisoners at Gloucester Prison to see if a photograph exists of Richard HAGGETT.
Glos Archives do not hold a complete record. I have previously checked the photograph records for another RootsChatterer and it proved unsuccessful on that occasion.
Fingers crossed.
Victor
HARVEY, Guiting Power, Glos                     
PORTER, Gunmakers of Whitechapel
ALLEN - Blockley, BOWLES - Notgrove, BURROWS - Sevenhampton, COOK - Notgrove, DRINKWATER-LUNN - Aston Cross, FARDON - Temple Guiting, FAULKNER - Cheltenham, GADEN, GAYDEN, GAYDON, GRINHAM - Cheltenham, HART - Stow-on-the-Wold, LANE - Staverton, MOABY - Coln St Aldwyns, STAITE - Temple Guiting, TIMBRELL - Winchcombe, TYSOE - Warks & Glos, WHITFORD - Stanway, WINTLE - Forest of Dean, WYNNIATT - Stanway