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fabricated family trees
« on: Saturday 21 March 15 06:55 GMT (UK) »
Hey All,
would anybody care to comment on the legal ramifications arising from a family tree - that having reached its earliest known ancestor - who has no known origins past or future - simply disappearing- but leaves a spouse and 4 children - is foisted onto another tree in an attempt to create a continuous lineage stretching back to the earliest BMD registrations in England which is 1598 as I recall presently.
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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 March 15 07:07 GMT (UK) »
I would doubt if there are any at all, as family trees are mainly supposition based on information which may not be accurate.

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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 March 15 07:17 GMT (UK) »
None unless there is very very recent history involved. Where my family tree crosses over into others I have found glaringly huge errors if I didn't have certified paperwork I would wonder if I had gone all wrong! There should be a little symbol for (I'm not sure) on loads of trees.
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 March 15 07:26 GMT (UK) »
Depends what the fabricated tree is used for. If to substantiate a claim to property, money, title or whatever then I guess there could be legal ramifications depending on the legal jurisdiction involved. If, on the other hand, such a tree just gives the originator pleasure then I don't see a legal issue. If it's made available to the wide public in some way and someone takes it all at face value then that's their problem.

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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 March 15 07:31 GMT (UK) »
thanks for those answers & just to expand the issue a tad: the occurance of this is very recent and quite deliberate. Indeed one of the culprits claims considerable experience at research and wot-not and is I suspect a vested member of a well established society - not this one or any connected with it - the other individual appears to have 'bought' the scam and thus is actively involved.
A simple cease and desist order will not suffice, I'm guessing - so any thoughts on possible remedies will be thoughtfully contemplated...
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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 March 15 08:26 GMT (UK) »
Hey All,
would anybody care to comment on the legal ramifications arising from a family tree - that having reached its earliest known ancestor - who has no known origins past or future - simply disappearing- but leaves a spouse and 4 children - is foisted onto another tree in an attempt to create a continuous lineage stretching back to the earliest BMD registrations in England which is 1598 as I recall presently.
Be most interested to read ALL comments on this
Rodc >:( >:(

The more I read this post the less I understand this post.

Are you asking what the legal ramifications of adding one family tree to another family tree are?

If so the answer is unless the person doing that was commissioned to research the family history, libels another or was using the combined tree to gain some for of advantage there would be no legal ramifications.
Works of fiction are works of fiction.

On the other hand you mention “simply disappearing- but leaves a spouse and 4 children” if he has deserted his partner and children there could be maintenance issues outstanding with all the legal ramifications involved.

As a final note your mention of “earliest BMD registrations in England” is confusing.
Do you mean for that particular family?
Or do you mean the first BMDs in England were recorded in 1598, if this is what you mean there were many Births, Marriages and Deaths recorded in England centuries before 1598 and may be registered in Heralds Visitations and in Monastic Cartularies.

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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 March 15 08:33 GMT (UK) »
孔夫子


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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 March 15 08:50 GMT (UK) »
If there is attempt to knowingly defraud then there could be ramifications but i agree with the other comments. Sometimes people put some on their tree when they think so an so is the son of but have no concrete proof.
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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 March 15 09:00 GMT (UK) »
I agree wholeheartedly with Xinia.

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