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Offline Guy Etchells

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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #54 on: Monday 23 March 15 19:18 GMT (UK) »
snip... Equally, the situation mentioned by Guy can have its dangers:

I share with B, B shares with C, C shares with D until eventually someone shares with me.

Sometimes, when you track back through the route a piece of information has taken, you find that you were actually the source of it in the first place. So rather than being a confirmation of your own research, it's a circular argument that proves nothing. As always, care is needed.

But interesting though this is, I'm not sure how helpful it is to Rodc, and I wonder if his/her silence over the past couple of days might be because we've drifted away from the original query.

Arthur

That was not the situation I was thinking about, by sharing I do not necessarily mean sharing a lineage or even a fact like a baptism date or a death date (though it could do), but things as wide as where to find specific manorial records or inquests post mortem to enable one to find records.
Or someone may share a copy of a will, a photo of a tombstone or even an early map of a village, etc.

For instance someone recently shared with me some information that the parents of my second cousin once removed built a church in Twickenham. I had known all my life they had built a church in Shirley as I inherited a silver trowel used to lay the memorial stone of Shirley Baptist Memorial Church but I never imagined they may have built another.
Once I knew about the Twickenham church the reason was apparent, the daughter was living in Twickenham when she died so it was an appropriate place to have a memorial to her.

Each researcher has to draw his or her conclusions from the available information rather than copy another’s tree, sharing may help that conclusion.

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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 24 March 15 12:20 GMT (UK) »
 
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I must admit to having a few self doubts, even though I have proof. What if  there were 2 different families all sharing same names and date of birth. Nah-that's stretching it a bit, isn't it ???
To me, it is not at all un-expected that there will be possibilities of finding families with same dates of birth, same names etc.... 
Cheers,  JM
 

Hi JM,

Following on from my comment above and your reply.  I may be in process of proving myself wrong and you right!  This is turning into a nightmare of epic proportions if I am tracing the wrong family!  All is not lost yet I am waiting for answers from people.  At the moment no one can provide me with proof that the wrong couple actually existed, whereas I have proof mine did.  I have looked on every site I can think of - nothing! The four children in question have the same names but some  different dob.  I also have a few extra children.  Can only find record of them belonging to my couple.

It is a "Beam me up Scottie" situation.  I am trying to get to the bottom of it all but it is hard when I am waiting for replies.

Jane :(
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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 24 March 15 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Following on from my comment above and your reply.  I may be in process of proving myself wrong and you right!  This is turning into a nightmare of epic proportions if I am tracing the wrong family!  All is not lost yet I am waiting for answers from people.  At the moment no one can provide me with proof that the wrong couple actually existed, whereas I have proof mine did.  I have looked on every site I can think of - nothing! The four children in question have the same names but some  different dob.  I also have a few extra children.  Can only find record of them belonging to my couple.

It is a "Beam me up Scottie" situation.  I am trying to get to the bottom of it all but it is hard when I am waiting for replies.

Patience is a virtue, and I am happy to be right or wrong on any item of research, so long as I am not on the pad waiting to be beamed up to Scottie just yet.     There's a huge team of RChatters who can help at least with a shoulder to lean on, and often with the offline resources to solve a long held confusion or so.

I remain confuddled by our OPs concerns and apparent lack of interest in many responses since their  own reply.   

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Re: fabricated family trees
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 24 March 15 23:01 GMT (UK) »
Hey All,
would anybody care to comment on the legal ramifications arising from a family tree - that having reached its earliest known ancestor - who has no known origins past or future - simply disappearing- but leaves a spouse and 4 children - is foisted onto another tree in an attempt to create a continuous lineage stretching back to the earliest BMD registrations in England which is 1598 as I recall presently.
Be most interested to read ALL comments on this
Rodc >:( >:(

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thanks for those answers & just to expand the issue a tad: the occurance of this is very recent and quite deliberate. Indeed one of the culprits claims considerable experience at research and wot-not and is I suspect a vested member of a well established society - not this one or any connected with it - the other individual appears to have 'bought' the scam and thus is actively involved.
A simple cease and desist order will not suffice, I'm guessing - so any thoughts on possible remedies will be thoughtfully contemplated...
rodc

Probably rodc is thoughtfully contemplating

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