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Offline Winterbloom21

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Re: Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 28 March 15 15:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for updating.  Have been wondering how things were going.   

If only we knew how old Gabrielle was at the 1933 wedding or in the 1939/40 register.       I know that there is a birth record for a 'Mary Gabriel Donegan' in 1924, but I have also found a very strange one for a Mary G. Donegan in Dublin North in 1912.     The trouble is, that is all it says - there is no quarter shown, nor a reference number.

Are you going to send for the 1924 certificate?   Even if just to rule it out?

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Re: Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 28 March 15 17:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the update to a fascinating search  :)

Even though I posted the 1924 birth for Mary Gabriel Donegan earlier my thought was that she was a bit young to be bridesmaid (and much younger than the age we now know John was).

Looks like we are back to this family in 1911 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Glasnevin/St__David_s_Terrace__Blackhorse_Lane/16562
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 28 March 15 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Just a note of interest anyone appearing on 1939 reg of electors men had to be over 21 not sure if same for the ladies.

edit later age 30 for women
http://www.dublinheritage.ie/burgesses/about.php

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Re: Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 28 March 15 20:05 GMT (UK) »
May have changed to age 21 after 1922


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Re: Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 28 March 15 23:36 GMT (UK) »
My mother was on the Electoral register for Dublin in 1930 - aged 21/22.
And her sister born 1910 appears the following year.

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Re: Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 29 March 15 08:55 BST (UK) »
Out of interest eadaoin where did you get to see eloctoral roll's for 1930 might help me breakdown a few brick wall's.

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Re: Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 29 March 15 10:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks all for the information on trying to pinpoint a possible age for Gabrielle. If we take it that she had to be at least 21 in 1939 that puts a date of birth no later than 1918.

I will send for the 1924 certificate just to cover all bases but I'm intrigued by the 1912 entry you have found Winterbloom as this seems a more likely year. Odd that there is such scant detail.

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Re: Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 29 March 15 10:57 BST (UK) »
wonder could it have anything to do with this one
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBR9-PQ9
in comparison to Winterblooms find
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBRN-L3F

film and folder numbers are the same image number different.

have come across a few cases where people were looking for their birth cert for say their marriage or pension in later life and found they were registered wrongly these certs usually have a reference number on them which gives a seperate statuatory declaration for a change in the register.

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Re: Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 29 March 15 11:27 BST (UK) »
this lady is a distant in law of mine
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Amary~%20%2Bsurname%3Apriscilly~&collection_id=1408347
her proper name is Mary Rose Pacelli
In the index books in GRO in any year that a Pacelli was born married or died their name usually appears first  under P or just after the name Pace but because of the Pr in her name i could never find her as she was further down the index for names starting with Pr however just in the last few years when i found it noticed she is hand written in ink at the start of the P index and when i purchased it it was re registered in 1962 when she was aged 70 for her pension as Pacelli by statutary declaration by two relatives.