Entry from the 1939/40 electoral roll John Donegan ...where to go now?

[aghadowey]

I think what hasta has just posted makes a lot of sense. I would add to that another idea.

1. Because Georgina is a name that could just possibly be corrupted to Eva
Ena is often a nickname for Georgina so perhaps 'Eva' was a misprint

[Winterbloom21]

Some great advice and inspired deduction work there.     The Holles Street conclusion is a very logical one, too; that was always known as the 'Catholic' maternity hospital, even for northsiders!

Just to shave a few seconds off your research time, the address for Belvedere is archives@belvederecollege.ie.

[hasta]

When I was looking for a possible marriage for John Donegan last night I could have saved myself a whole lot of bother if the Irish Times archive was working, but it's working now and I think we have found 'Eva' !!!
Irish Times - Friday, April 28, 1933 - Page 3

MR. J DONEGAN & MISS G TALLON.
The marriage took place last Wednesday at St John the Baptist Church, Clontarf of
Mr John Donegan, son of Mr and Mrs E Donegan, Phibsborough, Dublin and Miss  Georgina Tallon
daughter of Mr and Mrs James Tallon, Redcourt, Seafield Road, Clontarf Dublin.
The service was conducted by the Very Rev. Conan Dempsey assisted by the Rev
Father O'Keefe, St Anthony's.
The bride wore oyster satin and carried a bouquet of lily of the valley. There were two
bridesmaids - Miss  Gabrielle Donegan, sister of the bridegroom and Miss Beatrice Murphy,
niece of the bride. They were each dressed in frocks of French blue gorgette and carried
violets. Mr James Tallon (jr) acted as best man. A reception was held after the ceremony
at Redcourt. The honeymoon is being spent in Monaco.
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Hannah FYI 'Redcourt' was a Victorian redbrick mansion on Seafield Road, Clontarf that burnt down a few years ago, having been bought by property developers. Here is a link to the entrance as it stands now.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ezz/

1939/40 Register has Edward and Mary Donegan with daughter Gabrielle at 21-22 Lower Dorset St, Phibsborough. 

[Winterbloom21]

Brilliant stuff Hasta!     And Monaco, eh?   Doesn't sound too shabby.   Now, I wonder what he gave as his occupation on the marriage certificate.....

[aghadowey]

Fantastic!

Could this be the family?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Glasnevin/St__David_s_Terrace__Blackhorse_Lane/16562

If so....

Possible death for Edward (1936) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTKP-R6J
Birth: Mary Gabriel Donegan (1924) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F197-1PL
Baptism of Edward (1884) - parents John Donegan & Mary Sherwin
    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5dfa2a0204125
Edward's sibling Mathew (1886)- is this Michael in 1911?
    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/1ae0c00207499

[hasta]

Hannah I am going to PM you something I just turned up relating to the lawyers handling the estate of the Georgina Donegan and their search for John. It's sort of recent so feels wrong to transcribe here. I really think your mum needs to contact them.
I think I need a lie down !!

[Hannah K-P]

Morning.

Wow! My head is spinning with all the amazing information you have discovered - a wife, two sons, a sister, a beautiful wedding, Monaco! This is more than I could ever of hoped for and I'm so grateful to you all for all you help.

Hasta I have sent you a PM separately but wanted to acknowledge again your super detective work!

You have all been so helpful and I have so much new information to begin working with to keep building the entire new branch of my family history. It's exciting to find any relative, however distant, but to find and confirm information about your grandfather who has been a mystery all your life means so much. My mother will be exceptionally emotional at being able once and for all to put a name and birthday to her father (although she always knew bits and bobs he is buried under a different name and with a different birthdate, something she has always struggled with).

I'm going to set about ordering certificates, contacting the lawyers in the estate of Georgina, contacting Belvedere (thank you for the email Winterbloom), looking at all the great information you have pieced together aghadowy, trying to find out what happened to Gabrielle and the two sons...phew!

I will keep you updated and thank you all for your continued efforts!

[Winterbloom21]

I'm delighted for you Hannah and hope that you find out all you want to know.   Speaking as someone whose own grandfather did a runner and was a complete man of mystery until I discovered his trail (and second family!) in 2011 I have some inkling of how you feel.     As you say, keep us posted!

[Hannah K-P]

Good morning

Just by way of an update on what's been happening in relation to my search:

1) I have contacted Belvedere and I am waiting on a response. I'm hoping they will have some records in relation to his attendance there.

2) I have been in touch with the solicitors dealing with Georgina's Estate (the wife he left). She confirmed there were two boys from the marriage (both deceased unfortunately) and also gave other details from the grant of probable which means I now know where the boys children etc are living (Brighton and West Sussex). For the moment I think I'll leave that be.

3)Johns birth certificate finally arrived. I can see his birthday was 4 January 1909 and that his father Edward was listed as a tobacconist. His mother was Mary Mc Geer. I think I have found their marriage in 1907 (where her surname is given as M'Geer) and I'm now trying to find John's sister Gabrielle (?).

My focus for the moment is definitely trying to find any family that may be on John's side especially his sister or any other siblings.

Hannah