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Do you have the marriage certificate for Matthew and Ann; if so what information is given re James' birhtplace and parents?

FamilySearch does have a Collison HUNTER b Sunderland 1789

His wife is listed as Elizabeth Theaker/Thaker/Peacock'

He was buried in Sunderland 12 September 1861

The children listed were all listed as born Sunderland, Durham

Robert HUNTER, b 8 June 1815
Michael HUNTER, b 27 June 1821
Elizabeth HUNTER, b 10 October 1830 (mother's name Elizabeth Peacock - same mother or poor transcription?) m Robert WOOD 1828 (father's name at marriage "Collinson")
Thomas HUNTER, b 7 April 1826
Collinson HUNTER, b 1819

There is also a mention of a Colinson HUNTER b 1817 joined the merchant navy.

FamilySearch has this entry for 1861 census, and refers to FindMyPast -  I cannot see it on the other commercial site though.
   Collison HUNTER
Sub-District:   1 North Bishop-Wearmouth
Parish:   Bishopwearmouth
Ecclesiastical Parish:   St Thomas
Registration District:   Sunderland
Age:   72
Gender:   Male
Relationship to Head of Household:   Head
Birthplace:   Sunderland, Durham

It is on FreeCen as well giving his occupation as "former keelman"
His wife is Elizabeth 69 also b Sunderland.

Could he have been an uncle?  The fact that James named one of his children Collison seems to point to some kind of relationship as it is not a common forename.

Judith

DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Victoria: Matthew (James) HUNTER, born 1832/33, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
« Reply #10 on: Monday 16 March 15 05:30 GMT (UK) »
Not sure about my idea of him being an uncle as I cannot find a sibling called James for this Colli(n)son HUNTER.  (You gave Matthew's father's name as James.)

There are 11 children listed on FamilySearch with parents Michael HUNTER and Elizabeth between 1780 and 1795, but no James.  The mother's surname is listed as "Collison" for one of the records so that would be where the name came from.

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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Victoria: Matthew (James) HUNTER, born 1832/33, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
« Reply #11 on: Monday 16 March 15 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Collison HUNTER & his father Mark HUNTER both died George Town, Tasmania:

Collison HUNTER:
http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-54p88j2k

Mark HUNTER:
http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-56p97j2k

The Will of Mark HUNTER names his wife Ann HUNTER:
http://stors.tas.gov.au/AD960-1-16-3500

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Re: Victoria: Matthew (James) HUNTER, born 1832/33, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
« Reply #12 on: Monday 16 March 15 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Deaths:
Ann HUNTER 73yrs d. 1908 HOTH W #6280
Father: David TRAILL
Mother: Ann MCLEAN

Ann HUNTER is buried at Springvale Botanical Cemetery:

http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/3663


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Re: Victoria: Matthew (James) HUNTER, born 1832/33, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
« Reply #14 on: Monday 16 March 15 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Tony, I am in no way convinced that Matthew/Mark HUNTER who married Ann TRAILL is the one you are looking for  ???

I can see marriages & deaths of their children both in VIC & TAS that show Matthew/Mark & Ann's grandchildren carrying the COLLISON name  :-\

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Re: Victoria: Matthew (James) HUNTER, born 1832/33, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
« Reply #15 on: Monday 16 March 15 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Deaths:
Matw HUNTER 78yrs d. 1910 MELB E H #2614
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN

This death could possibly be your Matthew HUNTER as he doesn't appear to be the Matthew/Mark HUNTER that has been detailed on the thread.

But as you can see there are no parents names noted on the death certificate & he died in hospital.

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Re: Victoria: Matthew (James) HUNTER, born 1832/33, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
« Reply #16 on: Monday 16 March 15 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello Merlin and judb,

It seems that you have effectively rejected my original understanding about Matthew HUNTER and I can only say thank you for all your efforts.   I must admit to having had my reservations about the source I discovered in that no place of birth or parents were identified and, of course, no certificates were mentioned as evidence, only references to the Australia Death/Marriage Indexes, which I do not have access to.   Hence, my question to RootsChat.......if, for instance, I had had sight of such things as a Marriage Certificate for Matthew/Ann possibly such a question would have been unnecessary.

The one thing I have noticed is that no mention has been made about him being born in Birkenhead!!   That from the other website you uncovered!!

Another pending tray candidate, sadly, although at least we know the facts I quoted were correct but not for the correct person.   Such are the brick walls that genealogy throw up that invariably I crash into with the "Exiles"......so much easier with Tasmania where the convict documentation in most cases has the advantage of the parents, sisters and brothers being recorded.

My thanks and gratitude for all your hard work.

Tony



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Re: Victoria: Matthew (James) HUNTER, born 1832/33, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 March 15 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Matthew (James) HUNTER arrived in Geelong aboard the Joseph Somes on 24/09/1847 as an "Exile". 

Another possible death for your Matthew:

Matthew James HUNTER 87yrs d. 1919 MELB E #13662
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN

Again not much help as parents are unknown  :(