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Lusher | Lushy in Diss, Norfolk in the 1841
« on: Saturday 14 March 15 10:13 GMT (UK) »
A cousin has passed on a family tree, which I'm working through. I have this family in Diss, in the early 1800s. (Matilda is my gggrandmother.)

William Lusher (c1787 Wortwell Suffolk &  Mary Daynes  (c1787)
m. 1809 Burston near Diss, Norfolk, England
Susan LUSHER 1814
Sarah LUSHER 1815
Mary LUSHER 1818
Elizabeth LUSHER 1820
Emily LUSHER 1822
Harriett LUSHER 1826
Matilda LUSHER 1827
Harriett LUSHER 1830
Christopher LUSHER 1834
Sarah LUSHER 1835
Susan LUSHER 1838
all in Diss, Norfolk, England

In the 1841, I have been given:
Household Members (all born Norfolk): Name Age
William Lusher 54
Mary Lusher 54
Mary Lusher 23
Matilda Lusher 16
Harriet Lusher 11
Christopher Lusher 7

My question in seeing this, was: Where are young Sarah and Susan in the 1841? (And why name the children Sarah and Susan -- I couldn't find deaths for the older Sarah and Susan.)

Sooo...
I went looking and found in the BTs for Diss:
William Wragg LUSHY 1810
James LUSHY 1812
Parents are William and Mary, William is a shoemaker, like my William.

So my current hypothesis is that the younger Susan and Sarah belong to a William Jr., also shoemaker, also married to a Mary.

Could someone check the 1841 census for me and see if there are two households headed by William Lusher / Lushy in the 1841 in Diss?

Many thanks,
Wendy
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Re: Lusher | Lushy in Diss, Norfolk in the 1841
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 March 15 10:46 GMT (UK) »
The family you have for 1841 can be found at:
Class: HO107; Piece: 758; Book: 5; Folio: 26; Page: 9

Also in Diss:
Class: HO107; Piece: 758; Book: 6; Folio: 23; Page: 7
New Street, Diss,

Lusher, William  M  30 
Lusher, Ann  F  29   Not born in county
Lusher, Ann  F  7
Lusher, Sarah  F  5
Lusher, Susan  F  3
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Re: Lusher | Lushy in Diss, Norfolk in the 1841
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 March 15 11:19 GMT (UK) »

Baptisms;
St Mary, Diss, Norfolk
Parents WILLIAM/MARY ANN 0r MARY Lusher
Fathers Occp Shoemaker
ANN, 06 Sept 1833
CHRISTOPHER, 25 July 1834
SARAH, 09 Oct 1835
SUSAN, 22 June 1838
(Source FreeREG)

Trish :)

EDIT;
1851 Mary Ann Lusher is born c 1812 Wortham, Suffolk

Marriage of William to Mary Ann SHARMAN, 08 Nov 1832, Wortham, Suffolk
(Familysearh.Org)

I presume you know Matilda had a Son ALFRED Lusher Baptised 11 June 1846, St Mary,Diss, and he was Buried 14 June 1846 same Church (FreeREG)

HARRIET Lusher was Buried 11 March 1848 same Church age 18

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Re: Lusher | Lushy in Diss, Norfolk in the 1841
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 March 15 12:12 GMT (UK) »
FreeREG;

Baptisms,
St Mary, Diss
Parents WILLIAM/MARY,  Fathers Occp Shoemaker
SUSAN Lusher,1 April 1814
SARAH Lasher, 26 Nov 1815
MARY Lucher, 1 May 1818
ELIZABETH Lasher, 26 March 1820
EMILY Lasher, 3 May 1822
HARRIET Lasher, 20 Jan 1826, Buried 9 April 1826, Infant****
MATILDA Lus(k_)er, 17 June 1827
HARRIET Lusker, 27 June 1830
(FreeREG)
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Re: Lusher | Lushy in Diss, Norfolk in the 1841
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 March 15 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Trish!

I was puzzling over both Williams occupation on the 1841 census?
Now I can see it was "Sh Mk" - Shoemaker!
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Re: Lusher | Lushy in Diss, Norfolk in the 1841
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 March 15 13:45 GMT (UK) »
 :)
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Re: Lusher | Lushy in Diss, Norfolk in the 1841
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 March 15 13:50 GMT (UK) »
 ;D

Aha! as I suspected: two William Lushers, shoemakers, married to Marys or variations thereon. Thank you all so very much. I don't have a paid subscription to the censuses, so finding Wm Junior's out of county wife was not easy. And the name Lusher | Lasker | Lushy etc etc...well, all the usual genealogical crazymaking.

So to recap, I have the two families as of 1841:

William Lusher (c1787 Wortwell Suffolk &  Mary Daynes  (c1787))
m. 1809 Burston near Diss, Norfolk, England
William Wragg LUSHY 1810
James LUSHY 1812
Susan LUSHER 1814
Sarah LUSHER 1815
Mary LUSHER 1818
Elizabeth LUSHER 1820
Emily LUSHER 1822
Harriett LUSHER 1826 [- 1826]
Matilda LUSHER 1827
Harriett LUSHER 1830-1848
Christopher LUSHER 1834
all in Diss, Norfolk, England

And William Junior's family
Wm Jr & Mary Ann SHARMAN, marr. 08 Nov 1832, Wortham, Suffolk
Ann LUSHER 1834
Sarah LUSHER 1835
Susan LUSHER 1838

1841
William Lusher 54
Mary Lusher 54
Mary Lusher 23
Matilda Lusher 16
Harriet Lusher 11
Christopher Lusher 7

New Street, Diss,
Lusher, William  M  30
Lusher, Ann  F  29   Not born in county | 1851 Mary Ann Lusher b c 1812 Wortham, Suffolk
Lusher, Ann  F  7
Lusher, Sarah  F  5
Lusher, Susan  F  3

And thank you, Trish, I do have Alfred for Matilda. He is first in a line of 14 children!
 
Now to find out what happened to James 1812; Susan 1814; Sarah 1815; Elizabeth 1820; and Emily 1822.

If anyone saw any of these folk in Diss while poking about in the censuses, feel free to sing out.

Thank you all once again.

Wendy
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Re: Lusher | Lushy in Diss, Norfolk in the 1841
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 March 15 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wendy

A possible marriage for James in Kenninghall

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ey3/

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Re: Lusher | Lushy in Diss, Norfolk in the 1841
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 March 15 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Ah, thanks for that. I'd mentally set this aside as one of the Attleborough Lushers, but the father's occupation fits nicely. I'll work back now and see if there's a contemporaneous James Lusher in Attleborough.
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Turner: Berkshire, England
Hazell: Wiltshire, England
Waring: Frolesworth, LEI; Bugbrook, NOR; Cripplegate/London, England
Pearcy: Pattishall, Northants
Scott: Norfolk Lusher: Norfolk, , England
Powling: Suffolk, England