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Re: Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867 Volume 2
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 18 March 15 19:31 GMT (UK) »
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I did see those census postings... I copied the one from 1770 and put it in my Elisha folder. I am not sure if it is Elisha of Elisha and Hannah or if it is Elisha their son. Elisha the senior would have had 25 more years till he died. He was a bit older when he headed up their .... I would of thought it was more of a young mans game.... but they did come from good stock .... I am looking into Elisha, the son, today to see how old he was when he went up their. I discovered that Samuel his older brother (whom I come down through) was 5 years old when they moved to Barrington and he was born abt. 1757... making him about 13 years old....Hold on.... I just found some info.... it seems Elisha the son would have been only 5 years old by 1770. So it just might be Elisha the senior... time will tell. 
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Re: Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867 Volume 2
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 18 March 15 20:39 GMT (UK) »
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Oh sorry I was looking at the wrong census when I responded to you....
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Re: Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867 Volume 2
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 18 March 15 23:12 GMT (UK) »
Did you look at those births for Elisha & Hanna in Barrington? Most predate the census, so it is he...
In 1770 census ...They have six children...3 boys & 3 girls  (Being that they declare all children to be "American"... which seems rather odd after having forced out the original native people who would "not claim allegiance to the crown"? )

The births in Barrington for Elisha & Hannah ( was she surname Wing?) were:
Marcy/Mary Hopkings 24 March 1763 ( thought they were twins but this may have been a correction for spelling as well since the names are so close....you'd have to see actual images to clear this up)
Elisha Hopkins  22 June 1765
Seth Hopkins 15 April 1774
Edward Hopkings 27 June 1767
Isaac Hopkings  15 October 177I
Archd B Hopkins circa 1795
...adding correction: two of these boys were born before & two after that census
Wow, there are some trees that have this order all jumbled

The births in Barrington for Samuel Elisha Sr's brother & Rebecca Pennell were:
Rebecca Hopkins 25 October 1782
Hannah Hopkins 28 April 1785
John Hopkins  23 July 1787

There is also a Larina Hopkins b. 30 January 1868 in Jeddore, Halifax, NS mother: Elizabeth Mitchell
In case that is also your fellow married previously  ( There is a tree with a Samuel & several children with an Elizabeth Mitchell but the dates are 100 years later, unless someone has the dates wrong...)
Hmmm see there is a duplicate for this birth under Lavena Hopkins b. 30 January 1868, so although probably not yours it indicates, spellings were a cause for duplicate transcriptions so Mary/Marcy wrere likely also the same person

Some later generations in newspapers
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nsyarmou/Yarm_Times.htm
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Re: Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867 Volume 2
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 19 March 15 15:56 GMT (UK) »
Yes... I wondered which side they were loyal to. I had thought that they may have gone North because they leaned towards the crown. But it is difficult to understand how they claimed land belonging to those who may have been on the same side as those leaning away from the throne. Taking land from one group of people to give to another has never been pretty. Though you would hope we would learn from history... we seem to have this occur over and over in history.
With all the information you have found ... I have been able to join the beginning with the end of my family tree. Such a productive 2 weeks. I am very happy.
I don't know how this site works yet and so I don't know if you saw a post that was sent to me from another person who discovered or knew what the no# 56:111 meant and the other no#s. It refers to a book given the no# 56 and following the 56 are page no#s in that book. Again more of such interesting information about those who lived so long ago.
Well enjoy the day.... I am looking out my window and still see some of your Canadian Juncos (birds)... I promise we will send them home as soon as you warm up a bit.... thankfully we are warming oh so slowly down here... We are happy for 30 degree days this year.... But Spring is coming and we will send home your Robins and Juncos soon
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Re: Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867 Volume 2
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 19 March 15 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Please copy the link to that answer ( just go that answer and copy the url and past it into your next answer on this thread...thanks...Look forward to the Juncos and Robins...It is much nicer than last year as we had several feet of snow and a snowfall beginning of April...may have scared them away from an early return although we have only a wee bit left to thaw....

Glad I was of help in other areas of your research... J.J.
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Re: Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867 Volume 2
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 19 March 15 16:56 GMT (UK) »
Honestly you were a wealth of information.... I feel that Elisha is no longer one dimensional on paper ... but at least two dimensional now....   
Here is the link you asked for.
http://link.library.utoronto.ca/champlain/item_record.cfm?Idno=9_96879&lang=eng&query=elisha%20AND%20hopkins&searchtype=Fulltext&startrow=1&Limit=All
Let me know if this doesn't work.
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Re: Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867 Volume 2
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 19 March 15 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Ack? after all that..... all it refers to is is a note Elisha's daughter Mary's being married Gamaliel Kenny?
I thought it would have been something that refered to the land grants.  I guess if one was looking for Mary it would have be something as his parents are mentioned...  :P  J.J.
 
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Re: Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867 Volume 2
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 19 March 15 20:50 GMT (UK) »
JJ,
Yes, that is what I hoped for as well. It is what came up when I Googled for Elisha's land grants and so I assumed it was about that.... be careful what you assume.... I guess. I must say I am glad to know what the allusive no#s mean.  I called Nova Scotia Dept. of Natural Resources this afternoon and just missed them... I will try again. She contacted me and said she could mail me a copy of any of those grants. So I will talk with her tomorrow and see about getting a copy of one of the grants ... she said the earliest one is hardly readable so I may shoot for the 1770
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Re: Nova Scotia Immigrants to 1867 Volume 2
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 21 March 15 07:36 GMT (UK) »
According to NS Immigrants index, there are other references to Elisha Hopkins in the diary.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz