Author Topic: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916  (Read 9438 times)

Offline Peggy13

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Re: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916
« Reply #18 on: Friday 07 August 15 20:01 BST (UK) »
Your link for GRONI took me directly to nidirect where you can search for and buy certificates.
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Re: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916
« Reply #19 on: Friday 07 August 15 20:14 BST (UK) »
Was just wondering as your earlier post wasn't clear that you had actually bought the marriage certificate before or after I'd posted the link.
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Re: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916
« Reply #20 on: Friday 07 August 15 20:55 BST (UK) »
I bought the certificate after you posted the link. I had been hoping that if someone had the marriage info, they could provide the occupations without me having to buy the certificate. I had hoped the occupation might help me narrow down the death for the correct Robert but it did not help.
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Re: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916
« Reply #21 on: Friday 07 August 15 21:23 BST (UK) »
What about Robert's residence? could that give a clue to what happened to him?
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Re: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916
« Reply #22 on: Friday 07 August 15 21:57 BST (UK) »
I have no dob for Robert or residence, except that they were married in Oldpark Presbyterian in 1916 and gave residence as Belfast at time of marriage. Elizabeth's residence at time of death in 1944 is Oldpark Road but where they were in between is anyone's guess.
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Re: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916
« Reply #23 on: Friday 07 August 15 22:18 BST (UK) »
Trying to check a few other resources for clues. What is Robert's occupation in 1916? father's name & occupation? Names of both witnesses?

Added- father William John?
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Re: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916
« Reply #24 on: Friday 07 August 15 22:32 BST (UK) »
Have you ruled out Robert Ferris died 4 July 1919 Belfast? and if so, why?
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Re: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 08 August 15 02:04 BST (UK) »
Both Robert and his father William John were laborers. Witnesses were George Beggs and Jane Kennedy. I did check out the July 4, 1919 death and Robert was a bachelor in 1916 and the witness in 1919 was his son Thompson Ferris and I don't think a 3 yr. old would be a witness. Besides, Elizabeth was over 50 when they married. And Robert who died in 1919 was a widower.
Also checked Feb 14, 1935 and June 2, 1935 (was widower). and Oct 1936 (was widower). Maybe I should relook at Feb 14. Was married, was laborer whose address was 916 Crumlin Road. Is that Belfast?  Witness was S. McIlhare, a name I don't recognise, present at death, address 2 Legmail St.
I have looked back at the 1911 and there is a Robert Ferris on Crumlin Rd., single, mill laborer. Living with brother John and sister Elizabeth. Robert was 49 so age agrees with Robert who died in 1935, age 72. But is he the right one? No will on Proni.
I just found the same three siblings in 1901 on Hillview Road, Shankill, with their widowed mother Eliza, age 80. Could this be the correct family? I don't know. This means William John died before 1901 if correct family.
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Re: Marriage Elizabeth Beggs to Robert Ferris, June 7, 1916
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 08 August 15 12:15 BST (UK) »
Looks like this all fits-
Crumlin Rd 5. Ferris, John, labourer (then Loughview Terrace)
     http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ccomplete1910_c.htm

1911- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Crumlin_Road/171844
     Loughview Place Crumlin Rd- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001499373

1916 marriage- Robert Ferris, single, labourer, 916 Crumlin Rd.

1918- Crumlin Rd. 916. Ferris, John, labourer (then Loughview Terrace)
     http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ccomplete1918_c.htm

D/1935/54/1007/15/290, Robert Ferris, 14 Feb.1935,  age 72, Belfast district
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