Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"

[rosie99]

Daughter Alices marriage
19 May 1850 at St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire
Robert Grundy age 22, occ Spinner, Bachelor, abode Little Hulton
Alice Phethean age 21, Spinster, abode Little Hulton
Father of groom Thomas Grundy, occ Weaver
Father of bride John Phethean, occ Crofter
Witnesses  Abrm. Boardman and William Horrabin


and daughter Marys
8 September 1850 at St Peter, Bolton
Thomas Hindley Full age -occ Comb Maker, Bachelor, abode Great Bolton
Mary Phethean Full age - Spinster, abode Breightmet
Father of groom John Hindley, occ Carter
Father of bride John Phethean, occ Crofter
Witnesses  George Heywood and  James Liptrot

[Redroger]

In the late 1950s and early 60s the Town clerk at Boston Lincs was named Phythian. I wonder if this is a modern spelling of the same surname?

[IgorStrav]

In the late 1950s and early 60s the Town clerk at Boston Lincs was named Phythian. I wonder if this is a modern spelling of the same surname?

I think it's quite likely - see this

http://onomastics.co.uk/forum/anthroponymy/origins-of-the-phethean-surname/

Apparently likely to be a variant of Vivian

[rosie99]

John dies before 1851
Margaret remarries 1859 to James Lord
Alice b.1829 marries Robert Grundy in 1850
Mary b.1831 marries Thomas Hindley in 1850
John b.1833 marries Jane as lizdb's post
Margaret b.1836 marries William Higham in 1864

so just these two to locate
Elizabeth b.1838
Ann b.1840

[lizdb]

Possibility for Elizabeth
Marriage
Jan/Feb/Mar 1859
Bolton
Ref 8c 353
Elizabeth Phethean to either DavidHampson or Charles Fletcher

[rosie99]

Possibility for Elizabeth
Marriage
Jan/Feb/Mar 1859
Bolton
Ref 8c 353
Elizabeth Phethean to either DavidHampson or Charles Fletcher

That looks good lizdb 

From lancashirebmd
Index for the year 1859
PHETHEAN   Elizabeth   
FLETCHER   Charles   
Bolton, St James, Breightmet   
Bolton   49/1/32

[IgorStrav]

I think we're still tracking Ann, born 1840?

There are two Ann Phetheans born around the same time, but ours is the one born in April qtr 1840, baptised August 1840 as the parents are John and Margret.

What about this marriage?

Oct qtr 1861
Bolton
8c
299

to possibly
James Cullen
Richard Leather
John Morris

Ancestry suggests that the other Ann married John Makin

[hunkyhywel]

Wow guys! Thanks so much!

I think GenesReunited might have some holes in its records. I couldn't find the 1851 census record for them at all. I think I remember seeing an 1861 census for a family "Lord" and dismissing it! I'll have to check it again.

[rosie99]

I think we're still tracking Ann, born 1840?

There are two Ann Phetheans born around the same time, but ours is the one born in April qtr 1840, baptised August 1840 as the parents are John and Margret.

What about this marriage?

Oct qtr 1861
Bolton
8c
299

to possibly
James Cullen
Richard Leather
John Morris

Ancestry suggests that the other Ann married John Makin

The father of that one according to LancashireOPC was Joseph whose occupation was a Manufacturer.

hunkyhywell, have you tried looking for these families on
LancashireOPC http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
and LancashireBMD 
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/


You may be able to follow them and their children.