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Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"
« on: Tuesday 10 March 15 18:29 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for any record of the "Phethean" family after 1841.

I have them in 1841 census, living in Flash, Bolton, Lancs
John (Johnathon) Lomax Phethean b.1802 (Occupation Crofter)
Margaret Phethean b.1809 (Wife)
Alice b.1829 (Daur)
Mary b.1831 (Daur)
John b.1833 (Son)
Margaret b.1836 (Daur)
Elizabeth b.1838 (Daur)
Ann b.1840 (Daur)

Then POOF! THEY VANISH!

Margaret (1836), whom I am researching, reappears after having married but I never see the family again. No idea where they disappear to. Think maybe it has something to do with a mis-transcription of Phethean but couldn't find any.
I have searched FamilySearch and GenesReunited.

Any help gratefully received!

Hywel

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Re: Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 18:37 GMT (UK) »
Margaret is a widow in the 1851 in Breightmet, Lancashire
Margret Phethean aged 41
year of birth circa 1810
Head of household - widow
Born in Breightmet in Lancashire
Bolton Tong 3b 29
Piece   2208 Folio   131 Page 11
Other Household Members include
Margret Phethean   41
John Phethean           18
Margret Phethean   15
Elizebeth Phethean   13
Ann Phethean           10
Harriet Phethean    5
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 18:41 GMT (UK) »
And there are two death refs for a John Phethean in Bolton between 1841 and 1851, one in 1843 and one in 1847.

Have the refs if you need them


Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Son John, bn 1833 is on 1861 in Breightmet, with wife Jane and son Henry.
So the name carries on for another generation!

He can be seen on other censuses too, at least one other son.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 18:50 GMT (UK) »
Mum Margaret re-marries:
Marriages Mar 1859
LORD James and  Phithean Margaret  Bolton 8c 306

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Re: Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Henry on 1881
RG 11 3827 88 36
With three sons already! No sign of the name dying out yet!

And on 1901 with lots more children , and parents John (thats the one bn 1833) and Jane are there too
RG 12 3629 101 23
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: IgorStrav on Tuesday 10 March 15 18:41 GMT (UK)
And there are two death refs for a John Phethean in Bolton between 1841 and 1851, one in 1843 and one in 1847.

Have the refs if you need them

LancashireOPC has the 1843 burial
24 June 1843 at St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire
John Phethian -
age 65 years
abode Breightmet
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Re: Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Sounds good, Rosie.  :)
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Unusal name family disappears! "Phethean"
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Daughter Margarets marriage from lancashireOPC

3 July 1864 at Holy Trinity, Bolton
William Higham age  31 occ Furnace Tenter -  Bachelor, abode Nelson St
Margaret Phethean age 28 occ Warper - Spinster, abode Daubhill
Father of groom Robert Higham occ Chemical Maker
Father of bride John Phethean occ Crofter
Witnesses Thomas Higham and  Harriet Phethean
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