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Re: Looking help searching for Eugenia Johnson born in Sweden Circa 1881
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 11 March 15 12:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi

At last.
I have now managed to find the Christophersen family in Oslo. And the great news is that a Eugenie Johannesson is living with the family in 1900 as a servant.

1900 – Oslo:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037045027771

Eugenie was Swedish and born in 1880.


1910 – Oslo:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01036392060980

According to the census Thorwald was living at “Lenox Mass. Amerika”


1915 – New York
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K95Y-T6T

Thorvald Alfred Martinius Christophersen with son Erling.



It looks like he travelled back and forth between Norway and USA. There are a number of travel records on Ancestry. I wonder just what kind of relationship he had with his wife.

I do believe this to be your Thorleif and his family in Oslo. The passport application for Thorleif was an emergency one, so I suppose he was to travel to USA pretty quickly.



Thorvald Alfred Martinius Christophersen’s Naturalization:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVT7-X62N


Ian



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Re: Looking help searching for Eugenia Johnson born in Sweden Circa 1881
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 11 March 15 13:00 GMT (UK) »
This appears to be a match for Carl (Karl on the passport application) on the passenger list - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJCR-3YF

Yes that is them - father and son.

Ian

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Re: Looking help searching for Eugenia Johnson born in Sweden Circa 1881
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 11 March 15 21:01 GMT (UK) »
I have just found Carl Torleif's birth record and it states that Eugenia is his mother.

Ian

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Re: Looking help searching for Eugenia Johnson born in Sweden Circa 1881
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 11 March 15 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Well done, Ian!
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.


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Re: Looking help searching for Eugenia Johnson born in Sweden Circa 1881
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 11 March 15 23:30 GMT (UK) »
Cheers pinefamily .
Now to see if they married.

Ian


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Re: Looking help searching for Eugenia Johnson born in Sweden Circa 1881
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 12 March 15 00:38 GMT (UK) »
Here is the marriage between Thorvald Alfred Martinius Christophersen and Caroline Augusta Larsen:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7PR-889


and if you use Thorvald's whole name you will get 3 of his children's births.

The actual records can be found on
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_fylke=3&idx_kommune=Alle&idx_kilde=MINI&idx_periode=&idx_textsearch=&js=j


Ian

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Re: Looking help searching for Eugenia Johnson born in Sweden Circa 1881
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 12 March 15 02:22 GMT (UK) »
I have just found Carl Torleif's birth record and it states that Eugenia is his mother.

Ian

Thank you Ian! That is some pretty persistent and amazing sluething that you have done! I would love to see that record and show it to my mother – she was always a firm believer that Eugenia was Torleif's mother! One of the moderators here suggested that we not use Dropbox and instead attach the photos and documents here. In the interest of open exchange of information I have to agree with her. I just could not figure out how to do it and so suggested using Dropbox. It was a pretty open secret in the family that Eugenia was not his aunt despite it appearing that she was on the 1920 census document. I'm going to try and doubly confirm this by requesting the actual marriage certificate of Torleif and Agnes' from the New York office. That should set it in stone. You did a great job and a huge service! – maybe I'll discover some long-lost cousins eventually out of this process. I can't thank you enough for all of your efforts :-) I hope what goes around comes around in spades!

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Re: Looking help searching for Eugenia Johnson born in Sweden Circa 1881
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 12 March 15 08:28 GMT (UK) »
Here is the a snippet of Carl Thorleif's birth record.

Nr 223
Born: 21 June
Baptised: 28 June
Name: Carl Thorleif
Parents: Merchant Thorwald Alfred Martinius Christophersen and Maid Eugenia Johansson, (Sv) Sweden
M i Amerika: Man in USA



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Re: Looking help searching for Eugenia Johnson born in Sweden Circa 1881
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 12 March 15 08:35 GMT (UK) »
The passport images are unfortunately copyrighted. If a moderator can say if it is ok to post only the photos I will then do that....

Ian