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Offline plimmerian

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a family heirloom
« on: Friday 06 March 15 10:30 GMT (UK) »
this is the first time an "historical" artifact has come into my possession!  ;D

my grandmother's grandfather's walking stick, carved with a snake wrapped around it (yes my friends are telling me they always knew I belonged to Slytherin!!)

it also has carved on it "From Mickey to Thomas Naylor - Made by J Lavin Haydock" after a cross, a heart and an anchor

Thomas Naylor (1865-1950) was from Newton in Makerfield and was blind in his later years - he out lived both his wives - it has been said he was buried in Cheetham Hill, Manchester but no burial has yet been found!

I am curious to know who Mickey might have been - what significance the snake, the cross, the heart and the anchor might have - and who was the very skilled J Lavin of Haydock!?! 8)

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Re: a family heirloom
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 March 15 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Newton in Makerfield is now Newton Le Willows
St Peter church
is this your Thomas Naylor - the nearest I could find to 1865

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Re: a family heirloom
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 March 15 22:21 GMT (UK) »
the cross ,heart and anchor represents Faith , Hope and Charity .
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Re: a family heirloom
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 May 17 16:03 BST (UK) »
Update:

Marriage 1
07 Apr 1890 at St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire to Ellen Naylor (not related) of Newton le Willows, Lancashire (her father's family from Ashton in Makerfield)

Marriage 2
24 Jun 1916 at Register Office, Chorlton Upon Medlock, Lancashire to Louisa Kinsey of Barlow Moor, Didsbury, Lancaashire

Marriage 3
22 Aug 1935 at Register Office, Newton in Makerfield, Lancashire to Mrs Mary Hannah Brereton (nee Dearden) of Haydock, Lancashire

{maybe this third wife is the link to the Lavin family?}

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Re: a family heirloom
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 May 17 16:37 BST (UK) »
Update:

Marriage 1
07 Apr 1890 at St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire to Ellen Naylor (not related) of Newton le Willows, Lancashire (her father's family from Ashton in Makerfield)


Was Ellen a daughter of Daniel Naylor and Ann Cook/e?
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Re: a family heirloom
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 May 17 12:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

findagrave.com has,  Thomas Naylor b.4/9/1865 d.16/7/1950 Manchester Crematorium.

Could he be your Thomas.?

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Re: a family heirloom
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 May 17 12:37 BST (UK) »
If you look at the RAMC (Royal Army Medical Corp) cap badge you'll see there is a pole with a snake wrapped around it.  The snake is supposed to be a reference to good health.

<The snake and pole is a caduceus. A caduceus (kerykeion in Greek) is a staff with two snakes wrapped around it. It was an ancient astrological symbol of commerce and is associated with the Greek god Hermes, the messenger for the gods, astrologer, healer, and creator of magical incantations, conductor of the dead and protector of merchants and thieves.>
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