William Kiggins and Margaret Oakes of Ireland

[despair]

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Regards
Roger

[Janet Kiggans]

Hi,

I am back again, still searching  for my husbands Irish ancestors.  I had a big break thru last night, I found their marriage record and what I have been able figure out is that they were wed in County Wexford, Ferns Diocese, Monamolin on 21 November 1847.  I also found the baptism record of their 1st child Michael on 28 August 1848.  It looks like it might be saying that he was born in Cullentown?? , but it is recorded in the same set of parish records for Wexford.  Question is, where would I go from here?  Also, as suspected the spelling of the name was different, Keegan.

Still searching for something on the 2nd child Bridget born 1849 - 1850 and birth records or something that might give me the parents William and Margaret.  They left Ireland for the United States soon after the birth of Bridget in 1850.

Thanks
Janet and Wayne Kiggans

[garstonite]

Well - I am intrigued with this thread - my surname is Oakes and come from Garston ,Liverpool.

I wonder if William and Margaret ever stayed in Garston,Liverpool before they went to USA - possibly departing from Liverpool after coming from Ireland .
you can see by this link the Kiggins in Garston - St Michaels church is Church of England - Protestant -were your Kiggins Protestant or Roman Catholic ??


https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&englishSubcountryName=Lancashire&query=%2Bsurname%3Akiggins~%20%2Bany_place%3Agarston~%20%2Bany_year%3A1800-1911~%20%2Brecord_country%3AEngland%20%2Brecord_subcountry%3A%22England%2CLancashire%22

and by this link the Oakes in Garston

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&englishSubcountryName=Lancashire&query=%2Bsurname%3Aoakes~%20%2Bany_place%3Agarston~%20%2Bany_year%3A1800-1911~%20%2Brecord_country%3AEngland%20%2Brecord_subcountry%3A%22England%2CLancashire%22

I can't help feeling there is somehow a link ......or it is a huge coincidence ....Kiggins is not a common name ...I can tell you this - GARSTON is full of Wicklow men and is nicknamed LITTLE WICKLOW 
ALL the Oakes family in Garston are my family and originate from Over and Middlewich in Cheshire from 1724....Oakes family is mainly from Cheshire and I wonder if Margaret Oakes father was in the Army in Ireland ??
40 familytrees for Kiggins on here
http://www.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?go=1&nom=kiggins&prenom=william&prenom_operateur=or&with_variantes_nom=&with_variantes_nom_conjoint=&with_variantes_prenom=&with_variantes_prenom_conjoint=&size=10

I haven't searched through them - maybe you will be lucky and find your clan in there
if you think there may be a connection ....

even if there is no connection with William Kiggins and Margaret Oakes - you will find these links a very good read of interest to you
William Kiggins b 1856 in Garston
William H Kiggins b 1911 in Garston ...........

    yours .....Allan Oakes

[garstonite]

the only Monamolin record that shows on familysearch for Kiggins is an 1841 census record for a Kate Keegan - mother
address is
Harbour Street
Ballinastraw Upper

but Keegan not Kiggins ??
at least 20 pages here
have a look yourself
Ballinastraw
good luck

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&county19011911=Wexford&townland=Ballinastraw%20Upper&ded=&search=Search

added just found 5 OAKES family members there

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisible=&census_year=1901&surname=oakes&firstname=&county19011911=Wexford&county1821=&county1831=&county1841=&county1851=&parish=&ward=&barony=&townland=Ballinastraw+Upper&houseNumber=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&ageInMonths=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&yearsMarried=&birthplace=&nativeCountry=&language=&deafdumb=&causeOfDeath=&yearOfDeath=&familiesNumber=&malesNumber=&femalesNumber=&maleServNumber=&femaleServNumber=&estChurchNumber=&romanCatNumber=&presbNumber=&protNumber=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=

[Janet Kiggans]

Thanks, I will be going thur your suggested sites over the weekend.  As you can see from my previous post, my husband uses the spelling Kiggans, some of his siblings use Kiggins.  Headstones of his grandparents thru 2X grand grandparents is Kiggans.  Bridget's was inscribed as Kiggons.  US Census records have Kegen, Kiggins, Kiggans.  I even found a court document about naturalization that had it as Cajan. 

I don't know that they would have been in England for any length of time, Bridget's birth is reported as Oct 1850 (headstone) and Census records say that they came to the US in 1850 but I have yet to find their immigration records.  I know that they were in Georgia, USA in 1852 when the next know child was born.

I also have christening records of three other children from Knoxville, TN USA and the names were all spelled Keegan.

Margaret Oaks is also confusing, she never wavered, also stated that she was born in Ireland and that both of her parents were also born in Ireland.  I only find one baptism record in Ireland for a Margaret Oaks and the date does fit, it is Tullow, County Carlow.  All other records that I find on Oaks are in England. 

I had begun to think that these folks just dropped from space until I found the marriage and birth record.  Hopefully it will not take another five years to find the next piece of the puzzle.

Thank you all,
Janet Dabney Kiggans

[despair]

Did you ever use the www.rootsireland.ie website? It would probably include spelling variants such as Oakes.
Have you ever managed to trace their ship's passage dates/ports?Perhaps Bridget was born near the port of embarkation.
Are there any Oak(e)s/Kiggans or Keegans in Georgia or Tennessee in 1850-1860,who might be related?
One of the witnesses(?) on the marriage record looks like Fanny(?) Keegan,but I can't make anything further of that.
More questions than answers I'm afraid.

Regards
Roger

[Janet Kiggans]

Not finding much yet Roger.  Now that I have a County maybe I will have more luck.

The one birth record of Margaret Oaks of Carlow list parents as Patrick Oaks and Mary, so I have looked for other children and have found one possible brother, Thomas born 1825, listing the same parents. Found a marriage record of Patrick Oaks to Mary Fitzsimmons in 1818 also in Carlow.  That's about it so far.

Thanks
Janet