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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 28 February 15 19:43 GMT (UK) »
In both 1901 and 1911 census he sates he was born in Soho London. And in both cases he was 50 years old.  (...Peter Pan??). I thought perhaps the 1901 age was rounded up and in 1911 he was trying to impress Ellen
Cannot find a death, although in 1936 a Henry Johns died in Aldershot. The death cert gives no indication as to whom he was as he died in hospital and they issued the death cert.  His occupation was given as gardener. So again not certain.
I agree with margp regarding his birth but no census show a Henry living in Soho.
I tried going backwards to 1891 and again nothing.
Thanks for your help

Dud
Jacobs- Dorset
Parsons- Wiltshire.
Masons- Farnham Surrey
Johns-  Soho London

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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 28 February 15 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Dud, original 1911, sure (a) St Anns (b) Soho?

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PS Henry possibly illegitimate/mother married?
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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 28 February 15 20:02 GMT (UK) »
1901 census gives birth place as Soho London.

1911 gives birth place as St Anne London. Which is I understand Soho.

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Jacobs- Dorset
Parsons- Wiltshire.
Masons- Farnham Surrey
Johns-  Soho London

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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 28 February 15 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, the 1911 is that transcription or original?
I am really clutching at straws as to possibly another pob!?
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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 28 February 15 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi.
1911 Original


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Jacobs- Dorset
Parsons- Wiltshire.
Masons- Farnham Surrey
Johns-  Soho London

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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 28 February 15 20:29 GMT (UK) »
OK if you say so, will go with that?

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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 12 September 15 23:28 BST (UK) »
Dud

I have been researching Jane S Villers (sometimes written Villiers), Henry's mother. Jane S Villers,  or Sophia Jane Villers as she was sometimes known, born in Bromley in 1858. She was one of the 73 victims of the Silvertown explosion on 19 January 1917. Looking back over earlier posts, you already have some facts about this family and have eliminated them? In case it is helpful to others, it might help if I fill in some of the gaps. Jane S Villers was identified at the Coroner's inquest by her son, Harry Johns. The 1911 census shows Jane had been married to John Villers for 13 years with no children. They are living in Knights Road West, Silvertown in 1911.  John Villers had at two sons living at home and a stepson, Harry Johns, born in Shaftesbury Avenue, Middlesex. The 1901 census shows the same family unit but with a Henry Villers, whose place of birth is Soho, Middlesex. Dates and mother's details match for this Henry Villers to be Henry Johns whose father was the shop keeper from the Channel Islands.