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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #9 on: Friday 27 February 15 22:59 GMT (UK) »
 ??? Have you seen just how many threads are on this Henry b c 1851 Soho?
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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 28 February 15 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all your replies.  Give me a while to go through them.  Very many thanks.Dud'
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Johns-  Soho London

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 28 February 15 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi.

As Keyboard d86 asks, yes Amelia was my mother She died in 2013 aged almost 103 years.
She never knew her father. (Henry Johns)   I have spent the last two years trying to find him but cannot.
On the 1911 census Henry Johns is living in Aldershot with Ellen Johns  who he states is his wife.
Henry says he comes from Soho London, is a bootmaker and is 50 years old.  Henry did not marry Ellen but had two children, Amelia 1911 and Doris 1913 but Doris died in 1914.  In 1918 Ellen and Henry are apart and Ellen goes back to her former name Weedon and marries  a George Sutherland.
No idea what happens to Henry.
In 1901 henry was in Aldershot and working as a bootmaker for Ellens stepfather. He states in the 1901 census that he is single, 50 years old (again) and from Soho, London. This is how Ellen met him whilst still being married to her former husband Charles Weedon. 
The details above are all I have ever been able to find out about Henry.
One possible lead was that he was married to Jane in 1891 and lived in Frith Street, Soho. They had a son Henry (jr)  Henry (Snr) on the 1891 census states he came from the Channel Islands (Alderney). but I thought it was a possability that he may have left Jane and gone to Aldershot stating there that he was born in Soho  This theory is now very thin.
I have also considered that as Henry was in Aldershot he may have had a military background but again this proved fruitless.
As you can work out Henry was my grandfather. It would have been nice to have found his roots.
Yes I have asked about this man before.
Dud.
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Masons- Farnham Surrey
Johns-  Soho London

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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 28 February 15 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Dud, rather than everybody reading through all the possible Henry Johns b c 1851 that you have discounted, would it be possible for you to list them, so that a new approach to hopefully find him can be attempted?

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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 28 February 15 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi.

If Henry was born in Soho London then this as you know comes under Strand or Westminster area

1  Henry Louis Johns b.1853 Westminster
2  Henry Charles Johns b.1856 Strand.
3  Henry Morton Johns  b.1857 Westminster.

My Henry was so precise in 1911 census when he states St Anns Soho.London. Yet these Johns all seem to lead nowhere.

Dud.
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Parsons- Wiltshire.
Masons- Farnham Surrey
Johns-  Soho London

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 28 February 15 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Dud, thank you for that, when/where did Henry die, what age is shown?
Or just disappear?
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Re: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 28 February 15 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi.

If Henry was born in Soho London then this as you know comes under Strand or Westminster area

1  Henry Louis Johns b.1853 Westminster
2  Henry Charles Johns b.1856 Strand.
3  Henry Morton Johns  b.1857 Westminster.

My Henry was so precise in 1911 census when he states St Anns Soho.London. Yet these Johns all seem to lead nowhere.

Dud.
I would not put much credence, on where he was born, if he was brought up, has a young child, in that area, that's where he will think he was born, the information on the earlier census is given by his parents, and they will know the correct place of birth
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 28 February 15 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Dud, are you certain the birth place on original 1911 is St Anns, and not eg St James?
Plus we now have aged 50 in 1911 and 1901?

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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 28 February 15 19:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Dud, are you certain the birth place on original 1911 is St Anns, and not eg St James?
Plus we now have aged 50 in 1911 and 1901?
Sorry hit quote/post, but does it say St Anns, Soho on original?

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