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SPAIN : Lucambro...spain 1821
« on: Thursday 26 February 15 14:11 GMT (UK) »
looking for a birth of Johanna Mary Lucambro.  Or any others with this name.
I know her fathers name was Juan but I know nothing else. :-[
Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Lucambro...spain 1821
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 September 15 18:42 BST (UK) »
Hi kmdryd,

I'm originally from Spain, and this doesn't sound like a very common surname to me.

If I may ask, how do you know that Johanna Mary was Spanish/had Spanish roots? I presume your sources don't give a specific place or area where she may have come from.

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Herefordshire: ALLEN (Colwall), CARTWRIGHT (Kington & Almeley), DAVIS (Colwall), EVANS (Pembridge), GODSALL (Colwall), JONES (Whitbourne), MORRIS (Kington & Kinnersley), MOUND (Wormsley), TIPPINS (Staunton-on-Arrow), RODWAY (Colwall), VICKRESS (Wellington & Hope-under-Dinmore), WATKINS (Almeley)
Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)

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Re: Lucambro...spain 1821
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 September 15 03:12 BST (UK) »
Hello and thank you for your message.   I have a copy of the 1871 and 1881 census and on both, as place of birth it says.....Spain  B.C.
She isn't on the 1891 census and her husband is stated as a widower.  No area or any other place mentioned.   The spelling of her maiden name is my interpretation of what is written on her marriage certificate.   This is where her fathers name is stated as Juan Lucambro.   Other people have been helpful, suggesting alternate spelling of her maiden name. eg.  Lucumbro, Lucumbio, Lucambrio and possibly many more.  Johanna signed with an X on her marriage certificate. Her husband William Jarvis was a member of the Royal Artillery , so him  being stationed in Gibraltar and possibly meeting her there fits in with her also being born there.  At some point they went to England and married in 1840 at the Parish Church of Glenfield, Leicester.  There first child (my gx2) grandfather was born in Gibraltar in 1844.  He was also called William and was a Master Gunner (1881 census) in the Royal Artillery.    It has been suggested that I need to find where William was stationed during his army career. I have searched but cannot find anything.  Could you suggest something regarding this please?   Regards Kathleen 
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Re: SPAIN : Lucambro...spain 1821
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 November 16 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kathleen,
I've had another go at this and I havent been able to find any references to a surname Lucambro (even Google doesn't seem to be providing any answers). My conclusion is that it is a mistranscription or a misreading of the source.
I have, however, found a surname which i written form would be easily confused with Lucambro: LUCAMBIO. This surname is more common in Navarre and in the province of Guipúzcoa (so, right next to the Franco-Spanish border and within the Basque country and surrounding areas).
There is a number of Lucambios on FamilySearch and I believe Basque records have been for the most part digitised, so see if you can find a trail through that lead!
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Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)


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Re: SPAIN : Lucambro...spain 1821
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 November 16 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Seeing as your William says he was born Glenfield on the 1871 census, I believe these records would be correct:

First: William Jarvis b. Glenfield Leics enlisted 1834 aged 18 years into 8 Battalion. Transferred to 1 Battalion in 1835.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C12753528

Second: Same man, in 1 Battalion, transferred to 5 Battalion in 1842:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11931278

Third: William Jarvis of 5 Battalion discharged to pension in 1855:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C12674338

Son William appears to have been in 22 Brigade, here are the RA records of (some of?) his children:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11730153
and his marriage:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11730056


 
The fact that the name "Lucambio" comes from the Basque region is interesting as in the 1830s, there were Royal Artillery detachments in northern Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Carlist_War
http://balagan.info/order-of-battle-for-the-british-auxiliary-legion-in-the-first-carlist-war

Aha! There is a child of the Jarvis family listed here:
http://dokuklik.snae.org/sacramentales.php

Just search "Jarvis" under "1er apellido".
Martina Luisa Jarvis Lujambio  (first names, father's surname, mother's surname) was baptised 29 January 1840, Basílica de Santa María del Coro, Donostia.
Her father is listed as Guillelmo Jarvis Bonering (William Jarvis, mother "Bonering")
Her mother is listed as Juana Maria Lujambio Aldalur  (Johanna Mary Lujambio, mother's surname Aldalur)

There is a possible baptism of a brother, Jose Manuel Lujambio Andalur in 1826, he seems to have died as Jose Manuel Lucambio Aldalur.  This gives us possible parents for her - Angel Lujambio Alburena and Maria Josefa Andalur Cordova.

Angel Luxambio Albirena was baptised in 1790 as Juan Angel and died in 1844 as Angel Lujambio Albidena.

As you can see, you will need to be a bit flexible with spellings (use % as a wildcard on this search engine), but there is a lot of information there for you.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: SPAIN : Lucambro...spain 1821
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 November 16 13:43 GMT (UK) »
You've nailed it Jorose!  :D

Glad to have been of help in finding the Basque connection  ;D
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Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)

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Re: SPAIN : Lucambro...spain 1821
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 November 16 02:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much Jerose and Cimbrio.   So much information so I will be spending some time looking into it all.   I REALLY appreciate your time and helpfulness.   ;D
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Re: SPAIN : Lucambro...spain 1821
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 November 16 07:24 GMT (UK) »
Excellent work Jorose  :)
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