Birth/baptism lookup request Crispe family

[groom]

I'm confused - on Ian's WW1 records he gives his NOK as Mrs M Crisp - is that Martha or is it M for Miller? Ian's mother would be Rosina wouldn't she, according to the will?

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I'm pretty sure it's not Martha - she's married to a John Frederick Crisp, but whilst he is alive and well in Salford until 1912, she appears to die in 1899. That John and Martha appear to be a red herring

[rosie99]

Rosine Miller age 40 (father George) married John Frederick Crisp age 46 Widower - father Frederick in Poona  January 1895.

There is a baptism for a Rosine Miller in Poona 1853

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGHL-PFJ

It looks as though John Frederick was previously married to Alice Ruth Myatt. (1875)  Myatt would tie in with the wedding I found for Ruth Myart Crisp in England

[rosie99]

The free index on FindMyPast has Alice Ruth Crisp   bn c1857   died 1892   Dharwar   Bombay

Images are available for the marriages and deaths on FindMyPast

It would appear that JF Crisp was employed by the PWD as an accountant
http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Public_Works_Department

It is quite likely that JFC was born in India. There is a Frederick Crisp who marries in 1844 who could be his father.

[groom]

I'm pretty sure it's not Martha - she's married to a John Frederick Crisp, but whilst he is alive and well in Salford until 1912, she appears to die in 1899. That John and Martha appear to be a red herring

Can't be her as Ian gives his mother as NOK in 1915. As you say a red herring.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Alice's burial

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGTJ-8Z8

[elissajeanette]

Hello
Yes the  info is on Familysearch and can be seen in full at their libraries around the world.
There are also some images on Find My past apparently but that is pay to view and I haven't got that.
Looking at the index on FindMyPast John Frederick Crisp died 1903 in India is on there
as is a possible military record for a John Frederick Crisp born 1842.
A Will 1903 which should fingers crossed mention any children.

Ciderdrinker

Ciderdrinker, is all that on Findmypast? If I got a subscription to that do you think I could access those records? Thanks for looking into this!

[elissajeanette]

You people are amazing! Thank you for going to all this effort. There is so much information for me to sift through and try to separate the red herrings from the likely family members haha. I'll keep the thread open for a little while, if that's okay - the more information the better in this case!

[rosie99]

Is all that on Findmypast? If I got a subscription to that do you think I could access those records?

Findmypast has images for births marriages and deaths in their British India Office collections. You will need to pay to view the images.
Births       http://www.rootschat.com/links/01esf/
Marriages  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01esg/
Deaths      http://www.rootschat.com/links/01esh/


The military record for John Frederick Crisp on there is not your JFC. 

The copy of the will and deceased accounts for JFC are also on there.

You should also be able to find information on both of his wives and maybe his father / grandfather

FindMyPast sometimes have some very cheap offers running for a monthly subscription.  You could always do the 14 day trial but if you do ensure that you untick the auto renew box or they will take money from your account.

Rosie