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Re: Victoria: Samuel CHILLINGTON "Exile"
« Reply #18 on: Friday 20 February 15 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
There are 7 Samuel Chillington births in Staffordshire in the years 1826 to 1834, two of these had a brother called Joseph, one had parents called John and Ann.
The one that matches......Samuel was born in St Leonard's Bilston on the 18th Jan 1829.
His Mothers name was Ann Paleing.
They had six children altogether.
I have seen the ship records as both Samuel and Joseph.
Are you a member of Ancestry? the info is in there and there is a tree with the family from the brother of Samuel and Joseph called William.
Ann was from Tipton Staffordshire and John from Bilston, this seems to be the place where they lived in the England Census.
I didn't find any return ship lists for Samuel or Joseph.
Now to the Deaths...........
I did find which is really annoying.. spelling mistakes.
Josegm Chillington, aged 78, died 2nd September 1898 in Hobart Tasmania.  Reg number 531
Also a
Sara Chillington aed 88, died 1901, Ballarat, Victoria.   Reg number 3811
You should be able to get the death certs from these reg numbers.
I checked the Sara and she was Sarah, born to the same family and is in the William family tree.

Ok, I hope this is a help.
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Re: Victoria: Samuel CHILLINGTON "Exile"
« Reply #19 on: Friday 20 February 15 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I missed off....
Sara death notice.....
She had Father was John and Mother was Ann Pailing.   (The miss spell of the name)
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Re: Victoria: Samuel CHILLINGTON "Exile"
« Reply #20 on: Friday 20 February 15 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Maggsie,

When I posted my request initially I knew exactly who Samuel CHILLINGTON was......his Parkhurst Prison admission documents on 04/04/1845 stated that (as per the original source):

   (1):   His father was:   John CHILLINGTON, a Forgeman, from Wolverhampton:

   (2):   Information about the prisoner read:

                   Parents live at Wolverhampton.   Father in constant work as forgeman.
                   Works for Mr. Parsons, can earn £4 or £5 a week.   Prisoner has 3 brothers
                   & a sister.   Two eldest brothers work at the forge.  They have both been in
                   Prison, one of them 2 or 3 times.............parents went to live at Bilston.....
                   ......Parents then returned to Wolverhampton..........etc.

These details were confirmed by the 1841 England Census:

                                       HO107/999/12/4, p.1

His Father's occupation was entered as "Puddler" and his mother's name Ann, with the three brothers and one sister.

So when several RootsChatters unearthed sources about Samuel CHILLINGTON that tallied with details of the parents I was delighted.   And all that remains, although unlikely ever to find out, is what happened to him between 1848 when he arrived in Victoria and 1909 when he died in Ballarat???

For now,

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Re: Victoria: Samuel CHILLINGTON "Exile"
« Reply #21 on: Friday 20 February 15 22:45 GMT (UK) »

Also a
Sara Chillington aed 88, died 1901, Ballarat, Victoria.   Reg number 3811
You should be able to get the death certs from these reg numbers.
I checked the Sara and she was Sarah, born to the same family and is in the William family tree.

Ok, I hope this is a help.
Maggsie

Just to clarify.
Please see Reply #11 for the explanation of the death you believe to be for Sara CHILLINGTON

The date is 1909 and the registration is 3811. The correct name for the deceased is Saml CHILLINGTON

The information on the family tree which you cite above is flawed. 
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Re: Victoria: Samuel CHILLINGTON "Exile"
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 21 February 15 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I missed off....
Sara death notice.....
She had Father was John and Mother was Ann Pailing.   (The miss spell of the name)
Maggsie

Sara Chillington aed 88, died 1901, Ballarat, Victoria.   Reg number 3811
You should be able to get the death certs from these reg numbers.
I checked the Sara and she was Sarah, born to the same family and is in the William family tree.


May I gently mention that I have not found any death notice for Sara, and trees on Ancestry are of course, like trees anywhere, submitted, and need verification, not just to their own supported documentation, but by independent research.     

I have presumed that the index entry giving "Sara" is simply a mis-read for "Saml" which of course is a well recognised abbreviation used for "Samuel"  The actual death certificate will give the gender for the deceased and likely will have his name recorded in full too. 

The commercial website, Ancestry, clearly shows "Sara" and they also clearly highlight that it is from an INDEX ONLY record, and they provide the reference no for that VIC BDM record.   

   
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Re: Victoria: Samuel CHILLINGTON "Exile"
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 21 February 15 00:14 GMT (UK) »
So if you use the VIC BDM index there is NO registration for Sara in 1909 but there's ONE for Saml.

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria

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According to Ancestry’s search results  a Williams Family Tree is a private tree that has a Sarah Ann CHILLINGTON born in Australia 1886.  I have not found a William Family Tree.



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Re: Victoria: Samuel CHILLINGTON "Exile"
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 21 February 15 01:07 GMT (UK) »
Australia Electoral Rolls 1903, Victoria, Ballaarat, Black Hill.
Samuel CHILLINGTON
Binnie Street, Ballarat East, Labourer
NO others with that surname on that particular roll.

Cheers,  JM 
EDIT TO NOTE that I have again read back through the thread and I can see that I am duplicating Judith's earlier post.   sorry Judith.  :-[    .
And John Bell's too,  sorry John  :-[
Australian Electoral Roll 1903.
Chillington, Samuel. Labourer.Binnie? St, Black Hill, Ballarat East, Victoria.



....And all that remains, although unlikely ever to find out, is what happened to him between 1848 when he arrived in Victoria and 1909 when he died in Ballarat???
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Re: Victoria: Samuel CHILLINGTON "Exile"
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 21 February 15 01:13 GMT (UK) »
From RChat's own Resources Board for Victoria, Australia

http://ballaratcemeteries.com.au/php/search.php

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Re: Victoria: Samuel CHILLINGTON "Exile"
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 21 February 15 02:47 GMT (UK) »
Seems likely this is the right chap!

It looks like he stayed a single man and persisted at mining in the Victorian goldfields...?

There are 3 records for the surname Chillington in the Index to Victorian Goldfields Hospitals' Admissions. This includes hospitals at Amherst, Ballarat, Castlemaine, Creswick, Dunolly, Kyneton, Maldon and Maryborough. My disk no longer runs so worth seeing if anyone has NLA access:
http://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/item/1348

No record of him in the mining accidents index CD.