1870's burial ground

[DINCUR]

Hello,
I am wondering if someone might know where a Catholic labourer might have been buried in the 1870s? He lived in Romney Place, nr Romney St., in Westminster.
Also would anyone know, in which parish would that address have fallen into and what area would that same address fall under in the freebmd listings, from 1850 to 1920?
Many Thanks.

[StevieSteve]

Hi

To part answer...

From here

http://maps.familysearch.org/#search

the Anglican parish is either St John the Evangelist Westminster or
Westminster St Matthew

The reg district to 1870 was Westminster St Margarets, After that it's St George Hanover Square
That's from here

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/st%20george%20hanover%20square.html

[Tonykelly]

There was (is)  a RC Cemetery at Kensal Green see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary's_Roman_Catholic_Cemetery and
https://sites.google.com/site/stmaryskensalgreen/

There is also St Patrick's Cemetery which would have been in Essex.   It's now the London Borough of Waltham Forest, 
http://www.eolfhs.org.uk/area/cemeteries/waltham/

HTH

Tony Kelly, 
Monumental Inscriptions
West Surrey Family History Society

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[DINCUR]

Thank you both for replying. I know absolutely nothing about the area and it being so highly populated makes it more challenging. Would either of ye know if there was a local Catholic church to the area in the 1850s and would the Catholic parishes have mirrored the Anglican parish boundaries? Thanks again.

[Bookbox]

Parish boundaries are not relevant in a London burial search at this date, because most of the metropolitan churchyards were closed by various Acts of Parliament in the 1850s, because of overcrowding.

St Mary's RC cemetery at Kensal Green is the first place I would try (as posted by Tonykelly above).
(Please note this is a separate cemetery from the main Kensal Green cemetery, separately managed and with separate records.)

See also this post
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=403485.0

[DINCUR]

I was just wondering about the parish, to check for his children's baptismal records. It it is most likely there wasn't a headstone on his grave and I saw on the site that surviving records start at 1924 at St. Mary's Cemetery, Kensal Green. I just thought that his funeral service would have been most likely held in the same parish church as his children would have been baptised in. Thank you Bookbox and all, I wouldn't have had a clue where to begin.

[Tonykelly]

The RC parishes boundaries are usually different to the Anglican ones, I would guess they are drawn to suit the needs of the catholic population.   The RC Hierarchy was re-established in England and Wales only in September 1850, before that there had been no RC bishops since the reformation.   I'm no expert but I  would think that the admin boundaries would have settled down by 1870.

It might be worth contacting the Westminster RC Diocese. 

http://rcdow.org.uk

Looking at a map it seems that Romney St.(I can't see Romney Pl) might be in Pimlico Parish.
http://parish.rcdow.org.uk/pimlico/

So it might be worth giving them a ring for advice.

as far as I know RC church records  are not subject to The Parochial Registers and Records Measure 1978 nor the Freedom of Information legislation