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Richard KRAUSE born 1890-1895 probably Richmond Victoria
« on: Sunday 15 February 15 20:58 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for any  information on Richard KRAUSE born 1890-1895 probably Richmond Victoria.
Thank you for any information.

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Re: Richard KRAUSE
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 February 15 23:22 GMT (UK) »
May I ask the source of your information as he wasn't born in Victoria between 1890 and 1895. Do you have any other information about him at all?  It is possible his birth registration given name was not Richard but a Germanic name.

Just to start the ball rolling there is this Richard in NSW.

7476/1902     
KRAUSE Albert R
Father August J  Mother Johanna L
District Temora

Marriage
8429/1929     
KRAUSE Richard A
SCHULZ Gladys E
District Temora

Death
16979/1969     
KRAUSE Richard Albert
Father Johann August  Mother Johanna Louise
District Temora

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Re: Richard KRAUSE born 1890-1895 probably Richmond Victoria
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 February 15 12:52 GMT (UK) »
If that the right family, then the NSW State Records has a deceased estate file likely for the same Johann August KRAUSE ..... These files often contain bdm certificates, details of family relationships and the details of the disposal of the deceased estate.    Johann was a farmer, near Temora, and his date of death 28 Sept 1928.   Johann was naturalised 30 July 1898.

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/collection-search

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Re: Richard KRAUSE born 1890-1895 probably Richmond Victoria
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 February 15 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the replies, a large family of KRAUSE were living in Richmond Victoria about that time,I have just found a christening for Richard Charles KRAUSE 7 September 1893, but does not mention parents, was at St. Stephens Church Richmond , Victoria.

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Re: Richard KRAUSE born 1890-1895 probably Richmond Victoria
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 February 15 23:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Is it likely that that 1893 baptism was for an adult? 

I am sure that the clergy conducting that baptism would have asked for the parents details.   Have you sighted the image from the original parish register? 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTCH-WZ4
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT6X-K6P

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Re: Richard KRAUSE born 1890-1895 probably Richmond Victoria
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 February 15 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Yogi

There was a considerable gap between these two births in the family of John and Eliza Jane BARTRAM to have Richard Charles in 1893.

Albert Stewart KRAUSE b. 1889 RICHMOND
Reg #5957

Leslie Norman KRAUSE b. 1896 RICHMOND
Reg #6367

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Re: Richard KRAUSE born 1890-1895 probably Richmond Victoria
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 February 15 03:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Essie for your reply, I do not understand the connection between John and Eliza John BARTRAM and Richard Charles KRAUSE.

Thank you again. Yogi. ;)

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Re: Richard KRAUSE born 1890-1895 probably Richmond Victoria
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 February 15 04:09 GMT (UK) »
I am sure that Essie's post is correct.   Essie has noted the details in the index including the maiden name of the mum.   So, the surname of the child whose birth is registered is INDEXED under the mum's surname at the time of that registration. 

So, the index is under KRAUSE as that is mum's surname at that time, because she is a married woman, and therefore the details for the child's father can be recorded on the birth registration. 

So, the index has Albert's surname as KRAUSE and the child's father as Jno (as in Jno. KRAUSE) and the index includes mum's nee name as Eliza Jane BARTRAM. 

Essie's post does not suggest that Albert's or Leslie's parents were John and Eliza BARTRAM.  It suggests to me that the parents were Mr and Mrs John KRAUSE.

When you obtain the actual image of the birth registration you will notice that the registration itself does NOT include a surname for the baby.   :)   

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Re: Richard KRAUSE born 1890-1895 probably Richmond Victoria
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 February 15 04:31 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Yogi for the confusion with a mistake that was overlooked when I posted the message.
Have deleted the offending words.

John KRAUSE and Eliza Jane BARTRAM were the parents of the family at Richmond.

Essie