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NSW (?) Marriage and/or Death - Jane BAIN
« on: Tuesday 10 February 15 03:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello all,

I'm seeking info on:

Jane Bain (nee McKay)
b abt. 1792 Montrose, Scotland
m: James Bain 1816
widowed between 1832-38
arrived NSW in 1838 on the 'Portland' (aged 46), with son James (17), and daughters Elizabeth (15) & Jane (6).

Older daughters Mary & Henrietta (with husband Alexander Clugston) had arrived the year before - also on the 'Portland'.

There are many descendants of this family so quite a lot of info is available:

- Henrietta & Alex settled in Victoria and had at least 7 kids
- Mary married Samuel Hadcroft, settled in the Milton area of NSW & had at least 9 kids
- James - ? ? ?
- Elizabeth (my 3x ggrandmother) married Thomas Appleby, they settled in the Bega/Bermagui area and had about 100 12 kids
- Jane jnr appears to have died in Sydney in 1888 (aged 57) having never married (reg under maiden name)

However, I've not been able to find any further trace of their mother Jane after her arrival in NSW, so some help with tracking down this elusive woman would be most appreciated!

thanks,
B.
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Re: NSW (?) Marriage and/or Death - Jane BAIN
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 04:13 GMT (UK) »
Re: Jane Bain death 1888
1055/1888 BAIN, JANE; AGE 57 YEARS; DIED SYDNEY; SYDNEY
Probate Packet: http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\309892
Jane Bain Date of death 13 June 1888, Granted on 27 July 1888

SMH 14June1888 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13689024
BAIN.—June 13, at her late residence, No. 12, Belmore-street, Surry Hills, Jane, relict of the late John Bain, builder, of Sydney, aged 57 years.
Funeral notice SMH 14 June1888 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13689048
SMH 15 June1888 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28344225
THE FRIENDS of Mr. SAMUEL  BAIN are respectfully invited to attend the Funeral of his beloved MOTHER, the late Mrs. Jane Bain, TOMORROW (Friday) AFTERNOON; to move from her late residence. No. 12, Belmore-street, Surry Hills, at 2 o'clock, to the Waverley Cemetery.

Son's death:
15811/1936 BAIN, SAMUEL FRANCIS; Father-JOHN; Mother-JANE; RYDE

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Re: NSW (?) Marriage and/or Death - Jane BAIN
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 05:20 GMT (UK) »
- Jane jnr appears to have died in Sydney in 1888 (aged 57) having never married (reg under maiden name)

 B.

This Jane Bain, aged 57 in 1888 is, I think , not yours.

John and Jane BAIN lived in Sydney and after John Bain died, there were In Memoriam notices placed by his children for many years, notably by Samuel.  John died in 1874 and was a scale and weight maker.

Death
20/1874  BAIN John
Aged 63
Died Sydney
 
Here is his Funeral Notice
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13329385

The death you have noted was for his wife Jane BAIN

Some of the listed children from the In memoriam are
Jane LINDSAY ( married to Robert LINDSAY)
Ann LAMBLEY
Emma FISHER
John BAIN jnr
Samuel Francis BAIN

Sue

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Re: NSW (?) Marriage and/or Death - Jane BAIN
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 05:46 GMT (UK) »
I'm seeking info on:
........
- Jane jnr appears to have died in Sydney in 1888 (aged 57) having never married (reg under maiden name)

Do you have a copy of that dc?  If not, may I suggest you seek out an official transcription. 

Cheers,  JM
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Re: NSW (?) Marriage and/or Death - Jane BAIN
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 06:29 GMT (UK) »
I'm seeking info on:
Jane Bain (nee McKay)
b abt. 1792 Montrose, Scotland
widowed between 1832-38
arrived NSW in 1838 on the 'Portland' (aged 46)
However, I've not been able to find any further trace of their mother Jane after her arrival in NSW, so some help with tracking down this elusive woman would be most appreciated!

This death looks to be a high possibility:

Jean BAIN age 46yrs 1840
Parish: St Andrew's Scots Church, Presbyterian, SYDNEY
Ref: V18401461 102
Ref: V1840487 103

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Re: NSW (?) Marriage and/or Death - Jane BAIN
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 06:56 GMT (UK) »
- Jane jnr appears to have died in Sydney in 1888 (aged 57) having never married (reg under maiden name)

 B.

This Jane Bain, aged 57 in 1888 is, I think , not yours.

John and Jane BAIN lived in Sydney and after John Bain died, there were In Memoriam notices placed by his children for many years, notably by Samuel.  John died in 1874 and was a scale and weight maker.

Death
20/1874  BAIN John
Aged 63
Died Sydney
 
Here is his Funeral Notice
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13329385

The death you have noted was for his wife Jane BAIN

Some of the listed children from the In memoriam are
Jane LINDSAY ( married to Robert LINDSAY)
Ann LAMBLEY
Emma FISHER
John BAIN jnr
Samuel Francis BAIN

Sue

ahh, yes Jane, you appear to be correct, that Jane is a Bain by marriage, not birth so not my Jane jnr. then.

(I wonder what did become of Jane jnr then?)

Thanks!

B.
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Re: NSW (?) Marriage and/or Death - Jane BAIN
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 07:01 GMT (UK) »
This death looks to be a high possibility:

Jean BAIN age 46yrs 1840
Parish: St Andrew's Scots Church, Presbyterian, SYDNEY
Ref: V18401461 102
Ref: V1840487 103


I think you're correct, someone on Ancestry has her as Jean aka Jane but I didn't note it as it was only one person and there was no explanation for where Jean came from.

Well that certainly explains why she didn't come up on NSW births, deaths & marriages then!
Goodness, she didn't last long after arriving in the colony did she?  :-\

Is there some way of obtaining a certificate/printed copy of this info?

Thanks Merlin.

B.
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Re: NSW (?) Marriage and/or Death - Jane BAIN
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 07:17 GMT (UK) »

Yes,  Well found Merlin. 

Cheers,  JM
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Re: NSW (?) Marriage and/or Death - Jane BAIN
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Is there some way of obtaining a certificate/printed copy of this info?

You have three choices...

View the microfilms available at many larger libraries, FHS's & archives:
Vol 102=MFilm 5040 &/or Vol 103=MFilm 5041

Order a transcription from one of the Agents OR copy a from the NSW BDM:
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html