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Re: Elizabeth Fawn
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 February 15 04:22 GMT (UK) »
Aussie Roy you have posted your request on the Resources and Offers board.  It needs to be on the main Australian board.  I will ask a moderator to move it.

Lots of resources for South Australia
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=280572.0

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Re: Elizabeth Fawn
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 February 15 04:25 GMT (UK) »
Do you know when Thomas Mitchell arrived in South Australia? There is a Thomas Mitchell departing George Town, Tasmania for Adelaide on 29 Dec 1845 on the Margaret. (on the Linc Tasmania website http://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names).

Also a Thomas Mitchel departing George town for Adelaide on 6 July 1846 on the Raven.

If you know any more details about him this is a good website for free records.  ;)
I have nothing more than the marriage to Elizabeth Fawn. Hoping marriage records will provide more
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Re: Elizabeth Fawn
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 February 15 04:28 GMT (UK) »
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I have nothing more than the marriage to Elizabeth Fawn. Hoping marriage records will provide more
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Certificates in South Australian have scant information.  Little more than the indexes.

Marriage certificates do not list the fathers of the bride and groom until 1857.

Information on BDM certs in SA
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=368744.msg738037#msg738037

And another obituary with slightly different married surnames for the daughters.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article163122786
The Observer 31 Feb 1914

Mrs. E. Mitchell.

The death occurred at Stepney on February 2 of Mrs. Elizabeth Mitchell, at the age of 86 years and 11 months. As a single woman (Miss Elizabeth Fawn) she arrived in South-Australia by the ship Florienshire in the early part of 1849, and was  married to the late Mr. Thomas Mitchell at St. Luke's Church in March, 1850.
With the exception of eight years spent near Wasleys, the deceased lived in the city and suburbs.
She left three sons—Messrs. Walter Mitchell (College Park). S. Mitchell (Port Pirie),and W H Mitchell (St. Peters): and six daughters — Mrs. Scrivener (near Houghton), Mrs. Benger (Evandale). Mrs. Springbett (Strathalbyn), Mrs. Wingrove (Mile-End), and Misses Amelia and Emily Mitchell (Stepney).

Are you a descendant?

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Re: Elizabeth Fawn
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 February 15 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Just wondering what makes you think Thomas may have arrived from Tasmania? There are a few Thomas Mitchell's arriving in SA in the early c19, including the one I guess is on the tree you have, arrived 27 July 1836 (crew) from London on the Duke of York.



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Re: Elizabeth Fawn
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 February 15 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Maddy I assume you are aware that the Colony of South Australia first immigrants arrived 1836. 
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/SAShips1836.htm

The MITCHELL headstone at Payneham Cemetery appears to be quite detailed.  I have posted the info on a previous post.

The family information is not a tree but submitted information.  BISA is is a biographical work containing approximately 100,000 entries of South Australians who were born or arrived in the colony during this period.  The information was gleaned from research by the South Australian Genealogy and Heraldry Society in archives, public records, private papers, and letters of administrations as well as contributions from individuals.  It is a valuable resource for historians.

It isn't always 100% accurate as the information is taken from paper based records including newspapers for many of the passenger arrivals.  The survival rate of ships manifests in South Australia is poor.  I always attempt to validate the information but I'll leave that to Aussie Roy.

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1836DukeOfYork.htm
Information on its crew and passengers is in the REGISTER, June 28th 1894, page 4h.
Information for the DUKE OF YORK's crew and passengers is in the REGISTER February 25th 1911, page 49e.

The Log Book for the DUKE OF YORK's voyage in 1836 by Captain Robert Clarke MORGAN available to view in the South Australian Archives.

There are lots of links in the South Australian Resources section.

If you are having any difficulties searching just ask for help.

Cheers  :)
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Re: Elizabeth Fawn
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 February 15 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all this information.  Tracing the Australian end has become easier. I was hoping for written confirmation that Elizabeth was the daughter of William and Elizabeth... Elizabeth Fawn  Baptism Date: 3 Aug 1828 Baptism Place: Horsham, Sussex, England Father: William Fawn Mother: Elizabeth (Bedford) FHL Film Number: 1041543 Reference ID: item 3 p 279. I would seem so. Why she emigrated alone will remain a mystery. No convicts came to South Australia but I find that her father and siblings weren't exactly honest according to what I have found on ancestry.
   The same with Thomas Mitchell, no definite confirmation that he was the son of Samuel and Ann. He may have been a convict. Something I am checking on.
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Re: Elizabeth Fawn
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 February 15 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Thomas MITCHELL was not a convict.  He was a seaman and a member of the crew of the DUKE of YORK.

Hundreds of young girls and young woman emigrated to South Australia and many alone. I don't see that Elizabeth's emigration from England to be any different to many others who were looking for a better life.

Roy I would treat any online trees you may have found with a deal of caution, some reach into the realms of genealogical fantasy ::)

The information on the submitted information on BISA appears to have been well researched and well before the internet. Compiled by 1986.   I found with my own and OH's families that much of the family history had been taken from parish registers in England and Ireland by relatives visiting on holidays.

You have copied and pasted the baptism information from Ancestry and rootschat guidelines are that you must transcribe the information.

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Re: Elizabeth Fawn
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 05 February 15 12:22 GMT (UK) »
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article58609776
The Register  1911
Article about the DUKE of YORK  - our earliest ship

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Re: Elizabeth Fawn
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 February 15 23:04 GMT (UK) »


You have copied and pasted the baptism information from Ancestry and rootschat guidelines are that you must transcribe the information.

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[/quote] I copied and pasted from my family tree on ancestry  I have PAID for that, It's mine. I pasted it to here and made alterations so it is NOT an exact direct copy
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