Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire

[josey]

Thank you....again.

I found these 2 marriages for William Hayter on www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz
1889/960   Ann                   Handlin   William   Hayter   
1895/1684   Hannah Lizzie   Harker   William James Frederick   Hayter

and this death
1916/334   Hayter   William   77Y [so born ca 1839]
all to go on the back burner.

Might eventually be able to identify the William of the 1851 voyage.

[Lucy2]

My guess is that Henrietta HAYTER when registering the New Zealand birth, probably added a "fictitious" father for the child.   If questioned, and that probably didn't happen, then all that needed to be said was that the father was ... "away, working elsewhere" ... "at sea" ... or whatever. 

[I do wonder though if she deliberately elected not to add the child's forenames when she registered the birth ? ] 

[Lucy2]

No, I didn't make any progress with finding out just who the William HAYTER on the 1851 voyage to NZ, was.   

   ~  Lu

[josey]

Do you think the museum holding Richard's diary and/or the author of the rootsweb page on the Isabella Hercus would be interested in Richard's back story?

[Lucy2]

Incidentally, did find a (solitary) tree at ancestry which gave a few details of Edwin Richard William HAYTER.   [CUFF family tree ]:

It gave his birthdate as "4 August 1852" at Christchurch. NZ - (although by a process of deduction, (tinkering with dates) it is possible to work out the from the online NZ BDM birth index, the d.o.b. )

The marriage to Adelaide Mary BEAUMONT is said to have taken place at Auckland on 7 July 1904.

The tree also gave the names of parents as :
   Richard HAYTER and Henrietta SMART*       

[* Did I see somewhere that another of the HAYTER daughters married a "SMART"  ?? ]
Whether the parental information has been taken from the 1904 marriage certificate, is not known (no sources given).

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Do you think the museum holding Richard's diary and/or the author of the rootsweb page on the Isabella Hercus would be interested in Richard's back story?

You could always contact them and ask.      
I do know that Canterbury Museum accept family history / genealogy material (I still have some to deposit with them). 

Richard's diary written during the voyage sound's interesting ?   [I was disappointed to see that  no one has seemingly transcribed it ?   That may have something to do with the fact that if he didn't marry / or leave issue, and consequently nobody is researching his line ??   Pity.    ]

  ~  Lu

[josey]

I will contact them; I will also offer to transcribe the diary if the museum can send me scans. It would be a lovely thing to do & also have the voyage details available worldwide.

[Lucy2]

Also found this, dating from 1879 >   

http://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/24764/page/5632/data.pdf

{see right-hand column -- second from bottom}

In the County Court at Berkshire, holden at Windsor, Edwin Richard William HAYTER of 36 Ray Street and Waterside, in the County of Berks, Boat Owner and Letter of Boats on hire  ....

[Seems he had a great many occupations during his lifetime ?  ] 

Also noticed 2 (I think) other, gazetted notices (UK  1875 ?? 1877 ? ) in this name .... a "google" search should find them.

  ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

I will contact them; I will also offer to transcribe the diary if the museum can send me scans. It would be a lovely thing to do & also have the voyage details available worldwide.

Yes, that would be a super idea.   

   ~  Lu