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Re: Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi,there are numerous entries in PapersPast for R A Hayter in Christchurch

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=q&r=1&results=1&sf=byDA&r=1&o=100&e=-------100--1----2r+a+hayter--

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Re: Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thanks. So he missed out on some road tenders - then had to sell all his horses & drays in 1864. 1868 his voting rights were objected to [think he'd lost his farm], in 1871 working at E J Comer's office, turned down for clerk of the Roads Board in 1872, bankrupt in 1876. I wonder what he did for the remaining 30 years of his life?
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 20:55 GMT (UK) »
In the later Electoral Rolls he's either a bookkeeper or residential accountant.
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Re: Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Oh, thanks, good to know he had employment - I was imagining him enduring poverty.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 22:17 GMT (UK) »

Perhaps the siblings emigrated together .....  Neither are findable on the England 1851 census.


Hi Josey

Indeed they did emigrate together - by the vessel "Isabella Hercus" which arrived at Lyttelton (the port serving the Canterbury region), on 1 March 1851. (That date being the reason you couldn't find them in the 1851 UK census.)    ;)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/ih.htm

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Re: Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

... just noticed when posting that link for the "Isabella Hercus", that there was a listing for a "William HAYTER" also  ???

Before finding that link, I'd earlier come across a newspaper article >
"Lyttelton Times" - 15 March 1851 - Otago >  which gave just the names of a "Mr HAYTER and Miss HAYTER" who were amongst the cabin and forecabin passengers aboard that vessel.   [I"ll check further to see what I can find for "William Hayter" :

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Re: Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 23:00 GMT (UK) »

Perhaps the siblings emigrated together .....  Neither are findable on the England 1851 census.


Hi Josey

Indeed they did emigrate together - by the vessel "Isabella Hercus" which arrived at Lyttelton (the port serving the Canterbury region), on 1 March 1851. (That date being the reason you couldn't find them in the 1851 UK census.)    ;)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/ih.htm

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Hi Josey

I hadn't fully explored the link above  ;D ... but scrolling through the info again, I see there is a note  labelled "HAYTER" and refers to Richard having written a diary whilst aboard the "Isabella Hercus".

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Re: Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 05 February 15 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Wonderful finds, thank you so much Lucy.

In 1850, Richard & Henrietta's older brother James Samuel died aged 31, & named his 5 siblings as equal co-legatees [kindly enough in birth order!] in his will. I am wondering if Richard & Henrietta used their inheritance to emigrate? They seemed to have been in 'posh' cabins....
Here is the thread with that information
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=711689.0

How long would the voyage have taken?

I suspect William is John William, the youngest sibling - I couldn't find him in 1851 either.

The diary is now in Christchurch museum, according to the article.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Richard Ansell Hayter ca 1825 Berkshire
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 February 15 08:48 GMT (UK) »
The "Isabella Hercus" departed Plymouth on 24 October 1850 ... arrived at Lyttelton, Canterbury on 1 March 1851.

"Posh Cabins"  ... yes, says they travelled in the Fore Cabin, so would seem they paid a premium for such berths (and possibly this was funded from their inheritance ? ).

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