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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 05 February 15 12:46 GMT (UK) »
I believe I've found her in 1901 in Great Yarmouth, working as a servant, not far from her 2 girls who were boarding in Caistor on Sea:

Jennie Ramsey   Marr.   34      Cook       born Braemore, Hampshire (as spelt, but transcribed as Bradmore).

Ref. RG13 - 1812 - 65 - 2.

(This may already be known but couldn't see on the thread unless I missed it).

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #37 on: Friday 06 February 15 06:37 GMT (UK) »
Good find, Annette, looks very likely this is her.  The census image is clearly "Breamore" not "Bradmore".  I notice that the children's surname on the 1901 census appears to be RAMSEY also.  And, today, the bus from Gt Yarmouth to Caistor runs every 20 minutes and the trip takes 16 minutes (according to Googlemap  ;D)

I think I would be buying the death certificate for Elizabeth Jane HUGHES. Qld certificates can be downloaded immediately for $AU20 and death certificates should contain information re marriage and parentage - depending on the knowledge/truthfulness of the informant.
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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #38 on: Friday 13 February 15 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Nice find Annette, it does appear to be EJD on the census. Thank you all for the research and suggestions ... I ordered the death cert for EJ Hughes; unfortunately nothing conclusive.
She was 52, Presbyterian, born in Hampshire to Mr. Ramsay, a farmer. This Elizabeth was either a  Ramsay by birth, or her husband didn't know.

She married Thomas Herbert Alfred Hughes in Johannesburg, SA when she was 34 (abt 1907); and had lived in Qld for 16 yrs. (since 1910). Interred Mount Morgan cemetery.

I also read the articles about T.H.A. Hughes' death shortly after her death and couldn't find anything to add or confirm.

Nothing further from the family regarding immigration records or year. They did send a scan of the back of the photo (below).  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01eoa/

It appears Chas. Johnson may have been a photographer (attached his stamp).
Written message to the daughter of EJD on the back of photo: poss written by Aunt Mary Jones.
"Your step-father and mother on the verandah of their home which he built ten or eleven years ago."

I read in one Qld newspaper that Thomas Hughes was a builder, dairy farmer etc.

The grandson of EJD has a letter dated 1949 written to his mother in Canada from his aunt Mary (Nicklen) Jones of Elim, Breamore. A probate notice in 1950 confirms Mary's address in Hampshire. There was no news of EJD in the letter.

Thanks again for your kindness and for your time, I'll keep searching  :)
Kate



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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #39 on: Friday 13 February 15 01:12 GMT (UK) »
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She married Thomas Herbert Alfred Hughes in Johannesburg, SA when she was 34 (abt 1907);

Perhaps a marriage certificate would be helpful.

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #40 on: Friday 13 February 15 01:17 GMT (UK) »
Cando I was just reading up about that and I don't think they contain any useful info, but still investigating  ;D

DAWSON VALLEY NEWS.

WOWAN.

The news of the death of Mr. T. H. A. Hughes, which occurred in the Mt. Morgan Hospital on Friday..... In his young days he was a member of the South African police force and also a prospector on the West Australian goldfields.

Debra  :)


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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #41 on: Friday 13 February 15 01:38 GMT (UK) »
Yes I read that and I think it has been mentioned earlier in the thread.

I have researched in SA for OH's family and to be honest can't recall what info was available.  I think their death certs had information that helped me progress.  A while ago now so would need to re-visit the research.

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #42 on: Friday 13 February 15 01:47 GMT (UK) »
It sure would if it contains the parents names  ;)  I have been searching w/o success.
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She married Thomas Herbert Alfred Hughes in Johannesburg, SA when she was 34 (abt 1907);

Perhaps a marriage certificate would be helpful.

Cando

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #43 on: Friday 13 February 15 02:57 GMT (UK) »
Probably doesn't help you but a quick look at my research in SA years ago shows a family member visited SA and applied for the birth and death certs.   I haven't had a marriage cert from SA.  Info about the marriages were taken from the Death Notices in the probate files.

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #44 on: Friday 13 February 15 05:33 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps a post on the South Africa board my help?

It looks as though this is the right person with the anecdotal information. 

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