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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 14:14 GMT (UK) »
Some potential deaths from Queensland bmd:

Jane Elizabeth Robertson, d. 1943 aged 81, b. Hampshire (age off but birthplace close?)
 - nope, obituary specifies she emigrated "60 years ago" with her husband.
Elizabeth Jane Barnes, d. 1933 (no further details)
 - http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=10124647 - cemetery details say b. about 1860.
Elizabeth Jane Hughes, "Ramsay" in father's name slot but maybe misindexed/mistaken - is that possible in the QLD indexing?
She d. 1926 aged 53 , b. England (again, age off a little, but closest found so far).
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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 14:24 GMT (UK) »
I agree, Cando, but it helps looking at the larger picture.

There is really only one candidate for Walter Frederick Campbell Ramsay who was baptised at Stanton, Durham (census states birthplace as Hartlepool) 30/11/1874 as Walter Frederic Campbell Ramsay, son of a John Ramsay and Elizabeth (nee Worthy).  By 1881 Elizabeth is remarried to 'Hunter'.   (There was another WFCR born 1880 but he and family emigrated to Australia in 1888).

He married as Walter Frederic (same spelling as baptism) Campbell Ramsay to a Rose Kate Smith in Jun.qtr.1894 Kensington and a daughter born at end of the year named Elizabeth Maude Mary Ramsay.   A frustrating tree on Ancestry (no places mentioned) shows that WFRC died on 5/1/1901 but I cannot find a death in the UK.   His wife remarries as Rosie Kate Ramsay to Alfred Edward Elborn Mar.qtr.1902 Alresford and lives until 99 years of age, dying in 1970.

So, if WFRC did indeed die on 5/1/1901 (wherever this was) then Elizabeth Jane Davenport would have been left alone.   I also note that her widowed father was living at Cross Trees, Breamore on the next census!

Perhaps WFRC and EJD went to Australia 1900 and he died en route.   Certainly, can find neither on the 1901 census or thereafter.

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 23:15 GMT (UK) »
TROVE has this obit for Jane Elizabeth ROBERTSON which probably rules her out - a public tree gives her maiden name as Jane Elizabeth KNIGHT, b Alton, Hampshire 1861 and married William Bridges ROBERTSON in 1879 in Axminster, Devon. 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/61847415

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 05 February 15 01:11 GMT (UK) »
Some potential deaths from Queensland bmd:

Elizabeth Jane Hughes, "Ramsay" in father's name slot but maybe misindexed/mistaken - is that possible in the QLD indexing?
She d. 1926 aged 53 , b. England (again, age off a little, but closest found so far).

She lived at Wowan near Mount Morgan with Thomas Herbert Alfred HUGHES who is probably her husband.  He committed suicide just eight days after her death and they are buried together at Mount Morgan.  Thomas was born in South Australia in 1874 and they were living in Rockhampton in 1913.

I am not having any success with a marriage or children.

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 05 February 15 02:19 GMT (UK) »
An article about Thomas - electoral rolls show him as a carpenter, at burial he is a farmer, and reports of his death have him at Pocket Creek, Wowan.  Pity the photo is of someone else!!

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71978840

Wowan is still a thriving metropolis  ;D

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 05 February 15 02:35 GMT (UK) »
A strong possibility Debra.  One of the rolls show his details as Wowan, Dawson Valley Railway, carpenter.  Perhaps he was building stations and other infrastructure.  The disused railway station and good shed survive. Just looks like the lines were removed and the buildings abandoned.

The 1901 death for Walter Frederick Campbell RAMSEY/RAMSAY was in South Africa.  One of the census shows Walter to be a soldier so possibly, if it was him, he was killed during the Boer War.  The index only shows initial W. and no further detail.  Far removed from heraldic artist which appears to be the occupation on the girls birth certificates but was he accurate with his occupation at that time.

Why did Charles JOHNSON take a photograph of Elizabeth Jane DAVENPORT with her husband? 

Was she a family member :-\

Were they living at Morinish in Qld or simply visiting?

Judith mentioned a  Charles JOHNSON, mine manager at Morinish. He died at Rockhampton as a result of an accident at Morinish, in 1891.

Enrolled to vote at Morinish in 1903,1905 BUT were these people already living there pre-Federation?

JOHNSON Elizabeth Morinish Goldfield  Domestic duties
JOHNSON Martin  Morinish Goldfield  Miner

OR she could have been  Elizabeth Jane MACKAY, Elizabeth HANSEN or Elizabeth McKENZIE who were also enrolled to vote at Morinish :-\ :-\.

OR none of the above ;)

The architectural style of the home was not exclusive to Queensland.

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 05 February 15 03:29 GMT (UK) »
The architectural style of the home was not exclusive to Queensland.

I agree.   The home, the veranda steps, well to me it looks very much like the homes in some NSW townships where there's the seasonal flooding of their local rivers .... for example Lismore, Grafton, Yamba.

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 05 February 15 03:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all searching for the elusive Ms. Davenport. I believe she was called Jane, still the documents would be written with her full name. I have asked the family and they did find an entry for EJ Davenport on ship's list to Australia. I sincerely hope they find it soon, and letters which may provide an address. And I have asked about the photo.

I found Walter Ramsay from Hartlepool birth 1874 and had requested a copy of the death record from the tree owner, a descendant of Rosa Kate Smith and Walter. Cando is correct about the death of Walter Ramsay, b. Hartlepool with the Scots Guard in the Boer War; he died 5 Jan 1901 at Lindley. His attestation date 21 Feb. 1891. I have asked if she has any other information to share.

I looked for all variants of EJ Davenport's name in the BMD's and news with no results other than an EJD in the police news. Dress making supplies were stolen. Your research has turned up more possibilities, thank you for your time on this. I will try to find more helpful clues from the family.

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 05 February 15 11:42 GMT (UK) »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/54337895?searchTerm="T H A Hughes"
 - T.H.A. Hughes - says he left no family, so probably no children.
He had been in the South African police force, and a gold prospector in Western Australia.

So a range of locations where they could have met - perhaps it's even possible that Elizabeth headed to South Africa, trying to find Walter, and then found Thomas instead ;)

I don't see a potential marriage in WA.
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