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Re: Sarah Ann Blackmore b 23 May 1830 Exeter
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 22:51 GMT (UK) »
She was a Charwoman in the 1851 Census, so that would be the most likely answer.

UK Census 1851-

First name(s) Elizabeth

Last name Blackmore

Relationship Head

Marital status W

Gender Female

Age 48

Birth year 1803

Occupation Charwoman

Birth place England

Birth town Exeter

Birth town as transcribed Exeter

Birth county Devon

Birth county as transcribed Devonshire

Street 54 Coombe Street

Town -

Parish St Mary Major

City Exeter

County Devon

Hamlet -

Parliamentary borough Exeter

Municipal ward St Mary Major

Registration district Exeter

Archive reference HO107

Piece number 1868

Folio 391

Page 11

Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

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Re: Sarah Ann Blackmore b 23 May 1830 Exeter
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 23:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Leigh, to explain a Charwoman's role, it was someone who usually worked for hourly wages on a part time basis, often for several employers doing general duties such as cleaning.

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PS the Kenwood middle name for Francis have you found out why, and also why the?  as to the paternity of Elizabeth?
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Re: Sarah Ann Blackmore b 23 May 1830 Exeter
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 29 January 15 00:09 GMT (UK) »






I found Elizabeth in the UK census of 1851 she was a Charwoman (whatever that was) living at 54 Coombe St, Exeter with her two sons Francis and William, i have no record of Thomas
There are question marks over the paternity of Elizabeth Page, i believe her parents to be James Page and Elizabeth Ellicott.

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Is this Thomas?

Marriage
19 July 1855
Holy Trinity Hull Yks
Thomas Blackmore age 23
Father William Blackmore
Mary Grace Bootyman

1861
3 Henry's Place Hull Yks
Thomas Blackmore Head M Fisherman Exeter devon
Mary G wife 27 Brixham Devon
Mary J daughter 5 Hull Yks
William Bootyman Brother in law 5 Fisherman Brixham
RG9 3596 27 18

1871
Vessel Fearless Hull Yks
Thomas Blackmore Married 39 Captain Exeter devon
Amrose Pockly 19 Mate scarborough yks
george Cooper 18 Fisherman Scarborough
William Taylor 15 boy Dumbarton Scotland
RG10 4797 11 4

there are later census if required

Why is there uncertainty over parentage of Elizabeth?

Do you have her baptism?
and marriage?

Suz
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Re: Sarah Ann Blackmore b 23 May 1830 Exeter
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 29 January 15 02:57 GMT (UK) »
That may be my Thomas, i will see if i can find anything to confirm, however there are a few William and Thomas Blackmores floating around Devon.

Elizabeth Blackmore nee Page has been an issue for many, most trees have Elizabeth Hooper or Page Hooper whereas i looked for the best fit to the daughter Sarah Ann Blackmore and i believe William Blackmore and Elizabeth Page to best fit, all we know from death certificates over here of their sons and daughter Sarah Ann who all name parents as William Blackmore and Elizabeth Page, that's good enough for me, but not for others, anyway next find a wedding, i haven't so far, but there is a wedding for William Blackmore and Elizabeth Hooper that fits datewise which is why i think some researchers have decided she must be a hooper regardless of the facts under their nose, although once again i don't believe many actually have copies of the death or marriage certificates of the children, i did find a baptism for Elizabeth Page which i believe to be the right one but except it might not be.

Elizabeth Page Christened on 24.Aug.1803 St Davids, Exeter Devon, father James Page, Mother Elizabeth Ellicott.

James Page and Elizabeth Ellicott were married on 10 June 1803 @ St Thomas the Apostle, Exeter ,Devon.

There you go, that works for me, but happy to be shot down in flames if anyone has a better idea.


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Re: Sarah Ann Blackmore b 23 May 1830 Exeter
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 29 January 15 03:11 GMT (UK) »
Francis Kenwood Blackmore, yes an interesting name not sure but believe Kenwood to have a significant meaning, Elizabeth was pregnant at the time of her husbands death, what happened to her then being a charwoman is hard to say but she does have an association with the St Thomas the Apostle Church in Exeter to which i have noted the surname of Kenwood to be associated including a Sister Elizabeth Kenwood who perhaps was a friend, there are Kenwoods all around Exeter and in Broadclyst where i believe William and Possibly Elizabeth originated from, so who knows but whatever the reason for the middle name i think it would have been significant.

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Re: Sarah Ann Blackmore b 23 May 1830 Exeter
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 29 January 15 11:39 GMT (UK) »
That may be my Thomas, i will see if i can find anything to confirm, however there are a few William and Thomas Blackmores floating around Devon.


I agree there are a few Williams and Thomas in Devon -but this is the only Thomas I could find who consistently gives p.o.b. as EXETER Devon
So maybe??????

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Re: Sarah Ann Blackmore b 23 May 1830 Exeter
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 29 January 15 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Leigh, I cannot at present locate a birth registration for Francis Kenwood Blackmore in 1841/2 but note his baptism was 23rd April 1848 (born November 1841) St Mary Major, Exeter Father William Mother Elizabeth, abode Preston Street, no mention of middle name Kenwood, where was this information obtained from?

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Re: Sarah Ann Blackmore b 23 May 1830 Exeter
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 29 January 15 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi keyboard86, there is only one source for the middle name, but here is all i have found on Francis -



UK Census 1851-

First name(s) Francis

Last name Blackmore

Relationship Son

Marital status -

Gender Male

Age 9

Birth year 1842

Occupation Scholar

Birth place England

Birth town Exeter

Birth town as transcribed Exeter

Birth county Devon

Birth county as transcribed Devonshire

Street 54 Coombe Street

Town -

Parish St Mary Major

City Exeter

County Devon

Hamlet -

Parliamentary borough Exeter

Municipal ward St Mary Major

Registration district Exeter

Archive reference HO107

Piece number 1868

Folio 391

Page 11

Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Category Census, Land & Surveys

Record collection Census

Collections from United Kingdom

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UK Bdms-

First name(s) Francis

Last name Blackmore

Birth year 1841

Birth date ? Nov 1841

Baptism year 1848

Baptism date 23 Apr 1848

Baptism place Exeter, St Mary Major

Father's first name William

Mother's first name Elizabeth

County Devon

Archive reference 2945A/PR/1/9

Record set Devon Baptisms

Category Life Events (BDMs)

Record collection Births & baptisms

Collections from United Kingdom

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QLD Bdms - Death

Name: Francis Kenwood Blackmore

Death Date: 28 May 1885

Death Place: Queensland

Father's Name: William Blackmore

Mother's Name: Elizabeth Page

Registration Year: 1885

Registration Place: Queensland

Registration number: 000827

Page Number: 1193

SA Passenger Lists,1847-1886

Ship Sibella, 721 tons, Captain E.R. Coleman, from London 4th December / Plymouth 12th December 1851, arrived at Port Adelaide, South Australia 16th March 1852

South Australian Register Wednesday 17 March 1852

Tuesday March 16:-The ship Sibella, 721 tons, Coleman Master, from London and Plymouth 4th December 1851, with 257 Government emigrants.—6th ship from England to S.A. with government passengers for 1852 ; two births and three deaths on the passage, Edward Kearney, surgeon-superintendent.

Single Women

Blackmore Elizabeth Age 49

Single Men & boys

Blackmore William Age 16

Blackmore Francis Age 10

QLD Bdms - Marriage.

1881 C1276 Francis Kenwood Blackmore Elizabeth Whitford

   

1885 C312 Francis Kenwood Blackmore Marion Hammond

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Re: Sarah Ann Blackmore b 23 May 1830 Exeter
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 08 April 15 18:10 BST (UK) »
Hi, bit late to this thread (haven't been on Rootschat for a while) but picked up this thread after searching for a few of the names in our tree.

My wife has Thomas Blackmore who married Mary Grace Bootyman (Mary a sister of my wife's relative) in her tree, from their marriage Thomas's father was listed as a Gardener, Deceased.

We suspect he could possibly be the Thomas baptised in Broadclyst in 1833, as most census list him as being Born Exeter, except for the 1881 census which has him listed as Broadcliff, Devon - Broadclyst/broadcliff not being to dissimilar, with Broadclyst being close to Exeter.

Thomas Blackmore baptised Broadclyst in 1833  - has his father William listed as a Labourer. Sarah Ann Blackmore's father is the same William Blackmore, also listed as a labourer with abode Cutters (not sure where that is).
 
William Bootyman living with Thomas & Mary Grace in 1861 is Mary Graces brother, when he marries he names one of his children Thomas Blackmore Bootyman.

We have not made much progress with Thomas's early life before his marriage, but will have to have another look now, to see if there is anything new since the last time we researched this line.

Hopefully some of the info helps you with your search, if only to rule out possibilities.

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