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Re: Is the first name French?
« Reply #27 on: Monday 02 February 15 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ruskie and BumbleB for your advice. Samuel Adams and Agnes Powelll were married at Portsmouth Registry Office in 1904, which is where the certificate I have would have been issued to them.

Please excuse my ignorance but are you saying that if I contact Portsmouth Registry office I can obtain a copy of the register entry which may have clearer handwriting.
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Re: Is the first name French?
« Reply #28 on: Monday 02 February 15 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Now that's a very good question  :)  As the marriage took place in the Register Office, then I would assume that the two versions would be the same (GRO and Register Office) with the exception of original signatures for Samuel, Agnes and witnesses on the Register Office copy.  Very sorry if I misled you  :'(



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Re: Is the first name French?
« Reply #29 on: Monday 02 February 15 13:13 GMT (UK) »
BumbleB might it be worth wdytya contacting Portsmouth RO, perhaps via email, and attaching a scan of their (original) copy to ask if the version the Register Office holds is different (or any clearer).  :-\

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Re: Is the first name French?
« Reply #30 on: Monday 02 February 15 13:14 GMT (UK) »
I hadn't thought of that one  :)
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Is the first name French?
« Reply #31 on: Monday 02 February 15 13:18 GMT (UK) »
These days email makes it so easy that it might be worth a punt.  :)

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Re: Is the first name French?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 02 February 15 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both for you suggestions and comments. I will get in touch with Portsmouth Registry office to see if they can help.
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Re: Is the first name French?
« Reply #33 on: Monday 02 February 15 22:33 GMT (UK) »
Please let us know how you get on. Even if the writing is the same, you could ask them what name they think is written, just to give you another opinion (of course don't mention what you think it might be as you don't want to sway their opinion  ;)). :)

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Re: Is the first name French?
« Reply #34 on: Monday 09 February 15 12:41 GMT (UK) »
I have now had a reply from the Portsmouth RO and they have said that the name is Simeon.
 Back to square one as I cannot find a birth GRO reference or a parish record of baptism for Samuel Adams. His army record states he was born in 1875 in  the parish of St Phillips, Bristol. Bristol record office say there is no records for a baptism for Samuel in the St Phillips parish records. Also no census records for Samuel or his parents apart from Samuel in the army based in Jersey in 1901. No marriage record for his parents Simeon and Mary Adams.

I think that the family story that Samuel changed his name to Adams is probably true.

Many thanks everyone who contributed my requests.
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Re: Is the first name French?
« Reply #35 on: Monday 09 February 15 13:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for letting us know wdytya.  :)

In your search for the birth or baptism, have you broadened the search at all? Sometimes year of birth on army records can be wrong, as can places of birth - perhaps they think that the place they lived as a child is where they were born when it may not have been. :-\