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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 25 January 15 12:27 GMT (UK) »
So in answer to an earlier question although Margaret Potts and William were not married until 1869 after his divorce from Sarah 7th Feb 1868, they were certainly involved together and had children including George Robson who named both William Weiland Robson and Margaret Potts as his parents on his marriage certificate in 1879.   

Patrizia, it would have been most useful and time-saving to us if you had given this information at the outset.

Please can you say on which censuses you have found George, and what is his age on each of them?

Have you tracked Margaret Potts' family to see if George is with any of them in 1861 or 1871?

There are a good many births of various George Robsons showing on freeBMD in County Durham - how many of these have you checked to see if they are 'your' George? ( we are, of course, making the assumption that he was born in County Durham which might not be the case).

I see that William and Margaret had two daughters living with them in 1871. Under what surnames were their births registered?

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 25 January 15 14:37 GMT (UK) »
For that 1861 census that I posted, could Elizabeth be the daughter of Margaret Potts, as I was just thinking sister, but daughter more likely?

What is Margaret Potts' father's name from the marriage certificate?

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 25 January 15 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Is this Margaret Potts with her Mother and daughter or niece?
1851 census
Margaret Potts
Age 20  Where born:    Sunderland, Durham, England
Registration district:    Sunderland  Sub-registration district:    West Sunderland
Margaret Potts    55  mother widowed
William Potts    30  unmarried,  pilot
xxx   Margaret Potts    20  unmarried  no occupation specified
Jane Potts    18
Caroline Potts    16
Elizabeth Potts    19 OR 10
xxx  Elizabeth Potts    1 4 Mo  grndau

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Think this is wrong, as can see this family in 1861 with Elizabeth aged 12 still with them.

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 25 January 15 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Same family in 1841
William Patts
Age:    45  Where born:    Durham, England
Civil Parish:    Sunderland  Hundred:    Sunderland Town  County/Island:    Durham
Registration district:    Sunderland  Sub-registration district:    West Sunderland
William Patts    45  pilot
Margaret Patts    45
William Patts    20  pilot
Thomas Patts    20  pilot
Mary Patts    15
Margaret Patts    15
Jane Patts    10
Caroline Patts    5
Elizabeth Patts    5

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This family would be wrong if that 1851 family is wrong.

Need the name of the father from the marriage certificate.


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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 25 January 15 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi patrizia

I have William Wealands Robson jnr on a distant branch of my family tree. I am related through his mother, Mary Shield.

I have done a bit of research on him. I was not aware that he had a son George.

I have found 2 sons from his first wife; the first son, Richard Preston Robson, who died shortly after birth and the second son Samuel Moore Robson and two daughters from Margaret Potts (prior to the 1869 marriage), Margaret and Annie.

Do you have a copy of George's 1879 marriage cert where he names WWR as his father and Margaret Potts as his mother? It must be a scottish marriage cert if it names a mother?

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 25 January 15 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Do you have a copy of George's 1879 marriage cert where he names WWR as his father and Margaret Potts as his mother? It must be a scottish marriage cert if it names a mother?

Going by the original posting patrizia has George's Scottish marriage certificate and death certificate, both of which mention WWR and Margaret as his parents.
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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 25 January 15 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jan B

I have just got the image from Scotlands people and seen it for myself. It has Margaret Potts Robson as deceased I think.

She wasn't as she is on the 1881 census.

Been searching for a George Potts or George Robson birth in Durham but too many Robsons and not enough Potts.

I have a record for "Margaret Potts or Robson" for 1859 who was born in November and christened in December. I think the Potts family was Catholic.
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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 25 January 15 19:57 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I got the year wrong for Margaret Potts or Robson: it was 1858

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 25 January 15 22:28 GMT (UK) »
George Robson Stat Deaths 644/130078
1901 Deaths in the District of Tradeston in the Burgh of Glasgow
Entry No 78 1901 M age 35 years (this I believe to be incorrect age)
George Robson Feb 21st 1901
Occupation Lamp lighter
Prince Edward Street Glasgow
Single (this status maybe correct if parted from wife but was married see below)
Name of father surname proffession of father - William Robson Solicitor (deceased)
Cause of death
Signature and Qualification of informant and resident if out of the house in which death occurred
Elizabeth Allison Inmate present (the reason for my original enquiry)

1879 Marriages
Robson George - Boyle Ellen Stat Marriages 644/10 0211
1879 Marriages District of Anderston Burgh of Glasgow
19th Sept 1879 St Johns Epispal Church of Glasgow (difficult for me to read)
George Robson age 20,
25 Clyde Street St Anderston Glasgow
Father William Weiland Robson writer
Mother Margaret Robson  Nie M Potts (deceased)
Ellen Boyle x unable to sign just a mark sewing machine worker
30 Clyde Street Anderston, Glasgow
Father John Boyle Farmer
Mother Catherine Boyle nie Ferguson (deceased)

I have taken from both the marriage and death certificate that they are the same person George Robson.  For clarification I am seeking George Robsons birth registration to clarify parentage, date of birth and age at death. This is what I am having difficulty with finding.  Thank you for help so far it is appreciated.