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George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« on: Friday 23 January 15 22:11 GMT (UK) »
I am having difficulty finding the birth of George Robson. This is what I know and posted the following on the Lanarkshire page. I asked whether there was in 1901 a prison, hospital or asylum in Prince Edward Street Glasgow the location/place named on the death certificate as the place of death and the person signing the cert wrote the word inmate on the death certificate.  It appears there wasn't but the term inmate I am told can be someone living in the same tenament building.

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Thank you for explaining, that would make sense as it is possible the same person gave the details that were entered on the death certificate and would explain perhaps why some information is inaccurate or has been transcribed incorrectly. The parentage names are correct including the mothers maiden name, Margaret Potts and father William Weiland Robson jnr (corrected now I previously wrote George),  however the age of the deceased George Robson is incorrect  it states age 35yrs. The previous Scotland census's  up to but not including 1901 the year he died just states England and his birth year as 1856 and on one I believe 1864.  On death cert in Scotland it states single when in fact he did marry, but may have parted from wife Ellen Boyle prior to his death. He married Ellen in 1879 age 20 yrs on Scottish marriage certificate which would give his birth as 1859. George Robson left Durham and went to Glasgow where he married Ellen Boyle and had a daughter Mary Ann in 1880 and a son George in 1886 both born in Glasgow.  I presume he was born in Durham as his parents were but I have not found this George Robsons birth. George Robson married Ellen from Ireland in Glasgow in 1879. 
Can anyone throw any light on this please as I understand the surname Robson is very common in Durham...

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 January 15 22:23 GMT (UK) »
The parentage names are correct including the mothers maiden name. George Weiland Robson jnr and Margaret Potts,  however the age of the deceased George Robson is incorrect

Your heading on this post states William Weiland Robson as father, yet in the above quote you say George Weiland Robson. Which is correct?

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A William Wealand Robson died and has probate entry in Sunderland in 1882.
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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 January 15 08:42 GMT (UK) »
Sorry yes you are correct I did write George Weiland Robson which should have read William Weiland Robson Jnr I do have his details such as probate and two wives and divorce, 

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 January 15 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Have you got him and his family on the 1861 and 1871 censuses?


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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 January 15 10:43 GMT (UK) »
The marriage of his 'parents' was after your claimed birth for him?

Marriages June quarter 1869 
 Margaret Potts        Sunderland   
William Wealands Robson        Sunderland   

So born as a Potts?

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 January 15 17:45 GMT (UK) »
The marriage of his 'parents' was after your claimed birth for him?

Marriages June quarter 1869 
 Margaret Potts        Sunderland   
William Wealands Robson        Sunderland   

So born as a Potts?

William Wealands Robson appears to have been married before
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFJ9-FP1

He appears as married in the 1851 census in Sunderland (HO 107 / 2398 / 255 / 12)
and unmarried in the 1861 census (RG 9 / 3737 / 50 / 26)

He is an attorney.
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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 January 15 23:06 GMT (UK) »
Yes he was an attorney.  However he was not a good husband if you read his first wifes Petion for divorce. Sarah Hannah Moore b 17 th May 1824 in Monkwearmouth, Durham who Willliam Weiland Robson married 16th Oct 1948.  Sarah petitoned divorce proceedings against him as from  1850 to Feb 1854 William Weiland Robson snr committed cruelty against her, stabbed her in the head with pen knife, held a razor and threatened to cut her throat, beatings, threw jug and knife at her, was away for nights and came home intoxicated, they co habited until Feb 1854. It appeared that Sarah was a woman of means as she had £1,000 of her own money prior to marriage. They had 2 children one born 2 Jan 1850 and another who died soon after birth I believe. It appears that Sarah left the matrimonial home after William Weiland Robson  had been absent from the home for 2 years. Sarah cited three woman for his adultury including Margaret Potts, (who in reponse William also named). So in answer to an earlier question although Margaret Potts and William were not married until 1869 after his divorce from Sarah 7th Feb 1868, they were certainly involved together and had children including George Robson who named both William Weiland Robson and Margaret Potts as his parents on his marriage certificate in 1879.   

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 January 15 09:16 GMT (UK) »
He may have named both parents on his marriage certificate, but he could still just have been registered under his mother's name.

Have you looked for him under 'Potts'?

Have you found him on the censuses?

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Re: George Robson, father William Weiland Robson Jnr, mother Margaret Potts
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 January 15 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Is this Margaret Potts in 1861, if so, where is George?
No head of household specified, living at 22 East Cross Street,
Margaret Potts
Where born:    Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish:    Bishopwearmouth 
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Thomas  County/Island:    Durham
Registration district:    Sunderland  Sub-registration district:    North Bishop Wearmouth
Margaret Robson    2  daughter
Margaret Potts    32  House  Servant
Elizabeth Potts    12  visitor