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Unrecorded VC holder.
« on: Wednesday 21 January 15 17:38 GMT (UK) »
It has recently been drawn to my attention that a cousin of my wifes grandfather was awarded  the Victoria Cross for action in  1914.
He was 27276 Stewart Ernest Fagg. Royal Garrison Artillery. Served from 1907 to 1919.

 As the sole survivor of 25 men, due to be shot at dawn the next day. They all escaped from a German stockade. He then took charge and recaptured their own guns and manned them. Despite sustaining the losses of all the others attacked the German positions for 16 days before being rescued by a cavalry advance.
There is a very graphic account of why he was awarded the VC on the link below.


Here is the link:-  http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/militaryhospitals.html

Scroll down to the Christmas party picture the story is directly below.

Now comes  my anomaly. I can find absolutely no  record of him winning the VC on any of the holder sites etc.

 Why would this be.

Thanks for any advice or comments . Roger
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Re: Unrecorded VC holder.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen his medal record at The national Archives Kew. You will find it by inserting as much information as possible, You can buy a copy I think for around £3.
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Heres his medal card - very curious !


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Re: Unrecorded VC holder.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 18:11 GMT (UK) »
His Army records are on FindMyPast - would it show on them
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Re: Unrecorded VC holder.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your suggestions .That is the anomaly.I have his Medal card and have searched all through his records but no mention that tallies with things in the account given in the article.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 18:24 GMT (UK) »
What does the detail on the medal card i.e. "clasp and Roses" refer to? Could that be some detail about the VC and its ribbon and clasp etc.? Though it seems unlikely with the highest gallantry award of all I do wonder if a simple administrative error has arisen? i know from when I dealt with personnel how easy it was to write information on the wrong record, or to accidentally miss a record? Do you know the location of the medal?
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 18:42 GMT (UK) »
Gunner Fagg in the newspaper article is "a giant of a man, tall and broad, with a massive chest and shoulders. .... 'Yes, I am just over six feet.' "

According to the service papers for Stewart E Fagg, on enlistment he was 5'9 3/4", with an expanded chest of 35".

So, are we talking about two different peeps?

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 18:43 GMT (UK) »
It's a strange one this. The V.C. lists don't mention him. The only mention that I can find re the V.C. is from newspaper stories. It is also stated from a news paper that he was awarded a D.C.M. as well. I do love a mystery.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 18:48 GMT (UK) »
Gunner Fagg in the newspaper article is "a giant of a man, tall and broad, with a massive chest and shoulders. .... 'Yes, I am just over six feet.' "

According to the service papers for Stewart E Fagg, on enlistment he was 5'9 3/4", with an expanded chest of 35".


So, are we talking about two different peeps?

STG
His date of birth could be very relevant. If he enlisted at 16 (say) could easily have grown 2 1/2 inches in 5 years or so.
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