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Re: Biblical names
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 18 January 15 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Well we know now, wow! Thanks  :)



I've read that biblical names were often used by Non Conformist families. This is a subject close to my heart as I have a biblical name.  :)

And lo, the prophet Roobarb spake thusly.....  ;)


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Bell, Salter, Street - Devon, Middlesbrough.
Lickess- North Yorkshire, Middlesbrough.
Etherington - North Yorks and Durham.
Barker- North Yorks
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Re: Biblical names
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 18 January 15 19:31 GMT (UK) »


I've read that biblical names were often used by Non Conformist families. This is a subject close to my heart as I have a biblical name.  :)

And lo, the prophet Roobarb spake thusly.....  ;)

As a general rule for Christians - Catholics choose saints' names, virtuous names are used by strict nonconformists, Old Testament names could be CofE or nonconformist ....but every rule has its exceptions!

Rather off-topic, but I like the Spanish use of Maria-Jesus for girls and Jesus-Maria for boys.  I have not come across a British child named Jesus.

There was a Iesu Grist (welsh for Jesus Christ) b 1883 - son of this chap.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Price_%28physician%29

The outcome of his untimely early death and his father’s method of disposing of his body was one of events that lead to cremation becoming legal in this country.

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Re: Biblical names
« Reply #20 on: Monday 19 January 15 08:48 GMT (UK) »
OH's tree has a lot of biblical names, but all baptisms were in local parish church ( C of E). As well as the more common biblical names (Thomas, Martha, Abigail, Caleb, Ruth), one couple had a daughter called Jochabed - named after the mother of Moses (the one who hid him in a basket in the bullrushes) and a son called Barzillai. He seems to be quite a minor biblical figure described as an old and rich man who provided food for King David at the time his son Absolom was revolting against him. Surprisingly there are quite a lot of people called Barzillai, a search on FindMyPast gives over 2000 results. The earliest record I can find of a Barzillai is a baptism in Devon in 1592 and a burial for the same child a few days later.
Barzillai and Jochabed's brother Thomas named two of his daughters Asenath and Achsah. In the Bible Asenath was the wife of Joseph (coat of many colours) and Achsah was the daughter of Caleb (friend of Joshua - battle of Jericho). So again two quite minor biblical ladies. The family must have studied their Bible thoroughly.
And there are at least two Hezrons connected to this family, I suspect one ( born and died 1859) is the illeg son of one of these two sisters.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
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Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Biblical names
« Reply #21 on: Monday 19 January 15 10:11 GMT (UK) »
A big thank you Malcolm33 that is a very interesting post do you have a suggested book we can read up on the subject It seems to explain so much
Mabel Bagshawe I live fairly near Llantrisant the home of William Price who was a very colourful charecter. Thanks to him wenow have the option of cremation. He had two sons with the name the first he cremated the second was renamed once his father had died.
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Re: Biblical names
« Reply #22 on: Monday 19 January 15 19:05 GMT (UK) »
A big thank you Malcolm33 that is a very interesting post do you have a suggested book we can read up on the subject It seems to explain so much

There are many books that reveal what really happened, Trees.   I was shocked solid when I first discovered the truth about 14 years ago, and yet it really all came out well over a hundred years ago when Sir Wallis Budge published his translations of Egyptian Temple and Tomb texts.  Then Gerald Massey spent most of his life working on the material and wrote several books and gave lectures.   His last and well known book was 'Ancient Egypt - Light of the World' published 1907 which was available on the net.    But Massey was too early and was an easy target for the Church. 
    Perhaps the best book to start with is "Out of Egypt - the Roots of Christianity Revealed" by Egyptian/British Historian Ahmed Osman.   Abe Books have it from less than a Pound now.   It was such a best seller that it was reprinted under a new title, "Christianity, an Ancient Egyptian Religion".
     However I had to learn Ancient Egyptian myself to check everything I had read, and in doing so I discovered more and more evidence which can be found in "Tears in Heaven" by Ian Ross Vayro from Joshua Books, Queensland.    I am named in the leading credits in this book.
     Tom Harpur was an ordained Anglican Minister who studied at Oxford and taught Christianity at Toronto University.  Like myself he first had doubts after reading "The Jesus Mysteries" by Timothy Freke and that led him to Massey.    Tom discarded his long life career and belief and became an author with best sellers like "The Pagan Christ".
      But be careful, for I have found errors in just about every book.  For example Biblical names are researched in great detail by Ralph Ellis in his "Jesus Last of the Pharaohs" and his "Tempest and Exodus" in which he illustrates names in hieroglyphs and in Ancient Hebrew, yet he is totally wrong in his "Solomon, Falcon of Sheba".   There again if I hadn't have read that book I might never have discovered the vital origin of Sheba and her son David/Twt in the Kebra Nagast, the Ethiopian Bible.
     My own book is a novel with a number of facts thrown in and detailed in an appendix - see www.tutankhamencode.com
     I must add that knowing the origins of the Abrahamic religions enriches the teachings and explains a number of biblical puzzles, like the Fig Tree.    It is just a case of getting back to the beginning.
     
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields