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Re: TOOVEY vs TOOVEY
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 January 15 03:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kelberty,

As per your mention above of possible military service in the Forest Rangers or Armed Constabulary, this man certainly looks like your Abraham. 8)

From Forest Rangers by R. Stowers (1996).p.259
John TOOVEY
3, No. 2 Company; 23 Dec 1863 – Disbandment, 30 October 1867. Private. Promoted to Corporal 10 Mar 1864. Promoted to Sergeant, 26 Apr 1864. Earlier served 1st Regiment Waikato Militia, No. 100 (joined 11 Sept 1863 at Melbourne, Australia). Later served 5 Division, Armed Constabulary, No 46, Sergeant. Occupation: seaman. Slightly wounded at Te Ngutu o te Manu, 7 Sept 1868. Born 1833, Wickham, Hampshire. Sailed to New Zealand aboard Caduseus (sic) 1863. Received land; town lot No. 95, Harapepe; farm lot Nos. 151 and 152, Pirongia.

I think the man arriving on Result can be discounted.

You might like to have another look for him in Papers Past under this name and spelling.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

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Edit: The ship was Caduceus.
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: TOOVEY vs TOOVEY
« Reply #10 on: Friday 16 January 15 20:04 GMT (UK) »
Wellington Independent, 3 October 1863, Page 3
Local Intelligence.
The ship Caduceus arrived at Auckland from Melbourne on 25th instant, with 400 military Volunteer settlers for Waikato.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: TOOVEY vs TOOVEY
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 January 15 21:22 GMT (UK) »
I'm sure Kelberty will confirm this, but I've found a School Record for a Jemima TOOVEY, (purported) date of birth 29 July 1869, residence Warkworth, admitted to Warkworth School on 9 Sept 1884, discharged 28 Nov 1884, destination 'Service'. Parent/Guardian was Mrs TOOVEY.

I can't find a record of this child's birth on NZ BDM.

This is four years after Abraham (aka John/Jack) TOOVEY's death by drowning.

And diverting back to the Caduceus, from my perusal of the articles she was one of a number of packets working the London-New Zealand run, and operated by Messrs Willis Gann & Co. I suspect that she was given an urgent contract to bring the newly-attested military volunteers across to Auckland.
see Daily Southern Cross, 15 September 1863, Page 1 Advertisements.

And there's this report:

Press, 8 October 1863, Page 2
ARRIVAL OF THE STEAMER STORM BIRD.
We are indebted to the Wellington papers for our Auckland news, and take the following summary from the Advertiser of the 3rd instant.
The ship Caduceus, from Melbourne, arrived at Auckland on the 25th, with 393 military settlers for the Waikato…
26th September.
The Caduceus arrived at 2 p.m. yesterday, with the second draft of volunteers from Melbourne; she brings 387 men and 5 officers, they will be played up to barracks this morning by the R.V. band of this city.




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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: TOOVEY vs TOOVEY
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 January 15 21:50 GMT (UK) »
The Wellington Office of Archives New Zealand hold a file relating to Abraham TOVEY'S 1880 inquest.
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=24384540

I can't see a probate listed for either him or my wife Jemima, nor a second marriage for her on NZBDM.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL


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Re: TOOVEY vs TOOVEY
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 January 15 22:59 GMT (UK) »
And there are two school records (1909 and 1910) for his namesake son, Abraham TOVEY, Dome Valley School. Father, Mr A. TOVEY.

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Re: TOOVEY vs TOOVEY
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 17 January 15 01:48 GMT (UK) »
Jemima Jenkins married Thomas Harris Edwards on the 17/1/1864 Paddington London. There is a birth in NZ 1869 for Jemima Edwards also Thomas Harris Edwards B 1874.
There is an article about a Thomas Edwards shooting John Toovey in leg for seducing his wife a while ago 6/4/1875.
Jemima Edwards Died 1911

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Re: TOOVEY vs TOOVEY
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 17 January 15 03:55 GMT (UK) »
It appears that the original poster is already aware of much of the information provided here.

http://genforum.genealogy.com/englandcountry/messages/154649.html

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: TOOVEY vs TOOVEY
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 17 January 15 21:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kelberty

The following notice appeared in >

"New Zealand Herald " - 24 August 1889 - page 1 - Column 7

TOOVEY - John (Abraham) - last heard of in Auckland, New Zealand in 188 ? *  ... or anyone knowing his whereabouts, please communicate with his sister Laura, now Mrs WEST, Heath Farm, Woolbeding, Midhurst, Sussex, England.

[* Image a bit blurred - can't quite make out particular year ?? ]

   ~  Lu

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Re: TOOVEY vs TOOVEY
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 17 January 15 21:52 GMT (UK) »
oops ... here's the link to PapersPast in which the notice appeared.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz