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Offline Joyce C

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What information is on a New Zealand marriage certificate?
« on: Thursday 15 January 15 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I am trying to trace William Calder bn Inveravon, Scotland 1850 the son of John Calder and Helen Bremner.

I believe he might have emigrated to New Zealand in 1870 sailing on the Zealandia as a 20 yr old Ploughman bn Banffshire.

A possible marriage was to Elizabeth Jane Harwood in 1873.

I can order a copy of the marriage certificate but I wondered just what information it will give me, most importantly will it confirm his parents as John & Helen?

Or maybe somebody can confirm that I am on the right lines so far and it is "my" William who emigrated in 1870. William who married Elizabeth Jane Harwood died 1925 and is buried Linwood.

Williams brother, Alexander had previously emigrated to New Zealand in 1866 and he and his family lived in the Christchurch area, perhaps William went out to join him?

Many thanks

Bob
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Rochdale - Shaw
Saddleworth - Winterbottom Whitehead Broadbent

Leeds - Berry, Chadwick
Womersley, Knottingley, Campsall - Pearson, Atkinson
Banffshire - Calder, Craib, Bremner
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Re: What information is on a New Zealand marriage certificate?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 January 15 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob,

A 1873 New Zealand marriage certificate won't provide the names of parents. This changed in 1880 with the inclusion of more information.

See this topic in New Zealand Resources & Offers:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=259108.0
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Re: What information is on a New Zealand marriage certificate?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 January 15 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Here is a link to the CALDERs of Christchurch. Alex, Wm and Eliz are shown.
Cheers, Glen
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/Library.BMDs/CALDER.Christchurch.City.Library.BMD.html
BRICK WALL: GG Grandad George HARWOOD / HORWOOD - bn c1815 Somerset ENG (possibly Thorne Coffin) - mar 1837 Brympton, Somerset - emigrated to NZL 1841.
Father James, mother Sarah who? siblings?

CURRY / CURREY:  in Derbyshire ENG; to AUS c1840; to NZL 1905
with
WELLS:  in Kent ENG; to NZL 1855

KIRK / KIRKE:  in Lancashire ENG; to AUS c1882 & to NZL 1854
with  
HENLEY:  in Kent ENG; to NZL 1875

HARWOOD / HORWOOD:  in Somerset ENG; to NZL 1841
with 
WINTER:  in Hampshire ENG; to NZL 1842

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Re: What information is on a New Zealand marriage certificate?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 January 15 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the information

I had seen the Christchurch Library Calder entries and certainly the names of William and Elizabeths children could easily fit in bearing in mind the traditional Scottish naming pattern of children.

It looks like a death certificate might be more useful for giving Williams parents, I know he died in 1925.
Thank you.

Bob
Oldham - Williams Sutcliffe Brett/Britt Milner Moran
Rochdale - Shaw
Saddleworth - Winterbottom Whitehead Broadbent

Leeds - Berry, Chadwick
Womersley, Knottingley, Campsall - Pearson, Atkinson
Banffshire - Calder, Craib, Bremner
Birkenhead (Tranmere) - Roberts, Verrinder

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: What information is on a New Zealand marriage certificate?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 January 15 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob

A family tree published on the ancestry website shows >

"William CALDER - born 28 May 1850 in Milltown of Tombrachachie, Glenlivet, Banffshire - son of John CALDER and Helen BREMNER" - died 21 April 1925 :    Burial at Prebbleton* Anglican Churchyard Cemetery".

[* Prebbleton is on the outskirts of Christchurch.]

Tree confirms marriage to Elizabeth Jane HARWOOD 1873.    The researcher of this family has also posted quite a number of old family photographs.  ;)

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 January 15 22:56 GMT (UK) »

I believe he might have emigrated to New Zealand in 1870 sailing on the Zealandia as a 20 yr old Ploughman bn Banffshire.
Williams brother, Alexander had previously emigrated to New Zealand in 1866 and he and his family lived in the Christchurch area, perhaps William went out to join him?

Hi again Bob

The "Zealandia" (1870) passenger list (at FamilySearch), records that part of the cost of passage to NZ for William CALDER, was "paid in the Colony" (8 pounds, 10 shillings).    [Seems possible that if this is your lad, then maybe his brother was the person acting as his sponsor ? ]

In the remarks column pertaining to the entry for William CALDER, the note reads :  " L8-10s paid in Colony - No. 1313" .   "No. 1313" refers to the record showing name of sponsor and date payment was made.  [I'm just not sure if these payment records still exist ??]

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Re: What information is on a New Zealand marriage certificate?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 January 15 23:13 GMT (UK) »
There is an email here for more information on the cemetery

http://www.maryalls.church.org.nz/Cemeteries/

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 January 15 23:17 GMT (UK) »
Mmm ... just looking again at the manifest for the "Zealandia" (1870) as sometimes records of payments made by, or on behalf of emigrants, are shown.   
At Images 21 - 23, only "Promissory Notes given by Emigrants" and "Bills sent from Colony" {directly to Immigration Agent in London?} are shown.   [ Nothing relating to William CALDER or "Bills paid in Colony", unfortunately. ]

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 January 15 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob

A family tree published on the ancestry website shows >

"William CALDER - born 28 May 1850 in Milltown of Tombrachachie, Glenlivet, Banffshire - son of John CALDER and Helen BREMNER" - died 21 April 1925 :    Burial at Prebbleton* Anglican Churchyard Cemetery".
 

Incidentally, the tree mentioned above goes by the name of "Main Family File2" (search on William CALDER - d. NZ, 1925).    On taking a further look at it, I noticed that it didn't contain any info on William CALDER's arrival in New Zealand.     It does though include much detail on the family and if you're able to make contact with the tree "owner / researcher", I'm sure that would be beneficial to your particular search.   :)

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