Author Topic: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland  (Read 12934 times)

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Re: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 27 July 19 14:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Frank
How great to hear from you at last.  I have sent a few emails to an address I stumbled across a couple of years ago when I read about your 'conversion' and your book.  But it must be out of date as I have not had a response.
You probably don't remember me, but I was at your ordination (also James’ I think), and also met Aiden that day.  I think I was about 16 at the time.

Father Jim died a couple of years ago, just after I contacted him to get some family information.  Unfortunately he was not very forthcoming, just wanted to talk about himself really.

I have made contact with a Toomevara cousin in Ireland, Margaret, grand-daughter or possibly g-grand-daughter of Matthew, brother of James O'Meara, (my g-grand-father), and also Mary who is a grand-daughter - Mary's father Matthew James was a brother to my grand-father Patrick Thomas.
I recently met Mary in Sydney, and we had a great day touring all the Kogarah haunts of our childhoods.
I am trying to put together a family history but as you probably know, Irish records are spasmodic to say the least.  But now, some are finding their way onto the Internet. I hope you are prepared to have your brains picked!
Thanks so much for getting in touch.  Like you I am not getting any younger, and I just want to fill in some gaps in my life.
So great to make contact at last
Cheers for now, I'm off to bed as it is nearly midnight
Kerry


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Re: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 27 July 19 15:48 BST (UK) »
Our lucky day, Kerry !  Just to establish a little perspective - eight years difference in age doesn't mean much when you're in your seventies or eighties, but it does affect one's perception of the events we lived.  Mick, my eldest brother, left home in Westbourne St, parallel to O'Meara St, the other border of the five-acre property that was Michael O'Meara's backyard, limited by Anglo Square, the front yard being limited by Princes Highway, when I was four.  He was ordained in 1951.  Jim was ordained in 1956 and I was ordained at the minimum age of 24 in 1961.  Mick died of Alzheimers at the young age of 67.  Jim died when he was just a bit older than I am now.  They took with them many of the stories - and legends - of our family history.  To my own amazement I am at present the Patriarch of the clan.

In my book, the first of the three brief autobiographical chapters, "Bred and Buttered at Botany Bay", tells of the fifteen years I lived at home before leaving to become a Franciscan (!).  As my self-published book had what I would call, in a gross understatement, a limited distribution, I decided to publish it in my blog (blindfaithblindfolly.wordpress.com).  You will find this first chapter of my life-story in the Archives, dated September 28, 2015.  Check out the posts of that same year, September 27, September 28 and 29, October 22 and October 23, as well as October 26, for the rest of the autobio material.  The rest of the book consists of 227 Reflections for Believers on the Brink.  My blog, which is the continuation of the book, already contains nearly 900 posts.  Recently I decided to publish in the blog the book's Reflections, beginning with the post "God Could Care Less", the first in Chapter 4, and I am presently publishing the twenty or so posts on Darwin which constitute Chapter 5, the latest being "Intelligent Design or Progressive Adaptation".  You doan hafta read this scandalous, perversive material, which I am making available to the world at large.  But in case you wanna, it may answer your question about why the hell I became an atheist.

To my shame, when I visited Ireland for the first (and last) time some years ago, I passed thru Toomevara, taking in the church and the pub that like practically everything else in our ancestral town is still run by an O'Meara - but missed out on meeting any others of the clan, including the famous farmer Matt, well-known to my brother Jim and another member or two of the Kogarah O'Mearas.

How's that for starters, mate ?

Frank O'Phile   
   

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Re: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 07:54 BST (UK) »
Wherefore art thou, Romeo ?  I was hoping you would reply to my last mail, so as to pursue our discussion of Jimma and Mick.  What do you know about their trip back to Tipp to help Michael Collings kill the Brits ?  I have a story for you about Mgr O'Driscoll and our ancestors.  Hope you're OK, mate.  Frank in France.     

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Re: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 09:05 BST (UK) »
Sorry Frank, I've been madly sorting out all my articles regarding that branch of ancestors so that I can work out some questions to ask you.
I've also been trying to work out how to send a private message, so that I can give you my email address so that we can contact directly.
A couple of years ago I asked someone to answer directly, provided my email, and was promptly told off.  Do you know how to do it?  If yes, please explain it for me in words of one syllable.  I am hopeless at learning new stuff on computers.

I am completely in the dark about the trip back to Ireland apart from the fact that they went.  I did know that they contributed to the funds collected here in Australia as I have articles from newspapers of supporters of the cause.
Re: the Ireland trip.  Do you know if Patrick Thomas (my grandfather) going with them?  He would have been 25 at the time.  I remember him telling me that he had been to Ireland and would not go back as the chooks were under the table as they ate meals.  And he was a great chook lover!

I am sure anything you tell me (well, hopefully anyway) will connect with stuff I have discovered and in the meantime I will press on with the filing.  If only I had concentrated on one set of g-grandparents instead of taking on all 8!
Both James and Michael died wealthy men, with extensive property holdings, and cash in the bank!
Hope this response will placate you, at least temporarily, and I'll get back to the paperwork.
Cheers for now
Kerry
Msgr O'Driscoll seems to pop up regularly in the lives of those two.


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Re: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 10:14 BST (UK) »
No worries, Kerry.  Mind you, I myself was a bit worried - at our ages people tend to keel over and croak before you can say "Mgr O'Driscoll".  First off, a possibly true story about the famous PP of Kogarah.  Knowing the O'Meara generosity and dedication to all things Catholic, "the Mons" went down Rocky Point Road to ask Michael for a(nother) donation.  "I'll be needin' a statue of St Joseph for my Calvary above the altar you so kindly donated, Mick.  Yer bruther Jimma has already funded the statue of Mary, and you wouldn't be wantin' to be outdone by him, now woodya ?".  Naturally my grandfather coughed up the dough.  O'Driscoll crossed Toomevara Street and told Jimma that his brother had funded the statue of Joseph, but that the Calvary still needed one of Mary.  "Now you wouldn't be wantin' to be outdone by your brother, woodya, Jimma ?".  You can still see the complete Calvary today in St Patrick's, where I ran to Mass every day when I was a kid (!).  The altar still has my (uncle's) name on it : I checked.

Rootschat and everyone else warns against publishing e-mail addresses.  If you sent yours to me by snail-mail, I could give you mine by return e-mail.   I seem to recall your family having a home facing the beach in Brighton.  I guess you knew that my Dad's mate at Marist Bros Kogarah, a certain Norman Thomas Gilroy, lived in Brighton.  He and my Dad were first-day students at the opening of the school in 1909.

Now we're rollin', Kerry.  I look forward to learning a lot from you. 

More dramatic is the story of the burly brothers from Tipp returning to Ireland in the early twenties to lend a hand to the IRA which they helped fund.  Someone dobbed them in upon their arrival, and they were put under house-arrest for six months in Toomevara.  They never killed a soul and went back to Kogarah, never to return to Eire.   (Apparently end of available space !)  Frank

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Re: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 10:38 BST (UK) »
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Hi Frank and Kerry yes you are very correct not to publish your details in public spaces. The safe way is to exchange a private message with one another. Look at the profile name of the person you wish to contact and beneath you will see 3 round dark circle buttons, the one on the right is the pm button ;)

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Re: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 10:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your assistance with this process Sarah, much appreciated.
Cheers
Kerry

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Re: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 30 July 19 11:17 BST (UK) »
I'm looking forward to getting your e-mail, Kerry.  I join you in thanking Sarah.

Frank

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Re: James and Michael O'Meara from Toomyvara, Co Tipperary, Ireland
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 21 September 19 08:30 BST (UK) »
hi Frank
It is now almost 2 months since our last contact, and I have sent several private messages (as instructed) but have had no replies.

Are you ill, or just not interested?

Please let me know
Cheers
Kerry