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Re: emma jane groves 1842/1914
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 January 15 10:26 GMT (UK) »
I'll see if I can find the article again, Rosie, and find out the name of the relative who was living with her - it  could be a  lead.
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Re: emma jane groves 1842/1914
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 11 January 15 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Her niece's  name was  Mrs Brooks, a widow, who had lived with Emma Jane for 3 years. Might be worth following her backwards. I'm away for a few hours now so won't have time to look.
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Re: emma jane groves 1842/1914
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 11 January 15 10:59 GMT (UK) »
A bit of a task  ??? without a first name she was not with her in 1911 ???

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Re: emma jane groves 1842/1914
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 11 January 15 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget like you I was wondering if this was her second marriage as going by the later census she said she had been married 35years ...So that would make her about 37 years and a marriage in 1876 ?

Or did she mean she had been married 35 years and widowed for 10 years, marriage 1866.
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Re: emma jane groves 1842/1914
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 11 January 15 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Hard to say Mike I did see that census in 1871 but was not very sure ??? ??? Not sure if her death certificate would have parent's names

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Re: emma jane groves 1842/1914
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 11 January 15 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Was he a railway porter in 1871, if so he most likely worked for the midland railway, some records are on A, may say where he joined.

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Re: emma jane groves 1842/1914
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 11 January 15 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Just found the 1871 census transcribed as Groce on Ancestry Groves on family search
William Groce b 1844 Wilton Bridstow Herefordshire age 27 occupation sawyer
Emma Groce b 1838 Gloucestershire age33 sawyer's wife
There is a baptism for a William Groves 18 June 1843 at Bridstow
Parent's William & Harriet Groves

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Re: emma jane groves 1842/1914
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 11 January 15 15:10 GMT (UK) »
This is the marriage for William Groves to Emma Hastings don't think this is them
William Groves age 23 occupation gun screwer ? father Thomas Groves blacksmith
Emma Hastings age 22 spinster father John Hastings ..gas fitter
Witnesses John & Matilda Hastings
Married 9July 1866 Birmingham Bishop Ryder Warwickshire

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Re: emma jane groves 1842/1914
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 11 January 15 15:43 GMT (UK) »
Agree it doesn't look like the correct marriage, back to square one,
I think he is the right William, the birthplace is very definite, but is she EmmaJane?.

She is six years older than him, never seen any children for them, and says she was born in Gloucestershire,
But bridstw/ Wilton is very close to the border with Gloucestershire and the Forest of Dean.