William Shackleton

[heywood]

William Shackleton died in 1849 so he would not show on the 1851 census

As you will see Valendale, I have mentioned this several times.
The one with Sarah in 1851 married earlier and Gibby has the details.
They are in different areas etc.
I have asked Gibby1968 and friend to consider that death before. It makes much more sense- as you say Rose is a widow and with James Stell.

[valendale]

William Shackleton died in 1849 so he would not show on the 1851 census

As you will see Valendale, I have mentioned this several times.
The one with Sarah in 1851 married earlier and Gibby has the details.
They are in different areas etc.
I have asked Gibby1968 and friend to consider that death before. It makes much more sense- as you say Rose is a widow and with James Stell.

I am in full agreement with you, the other William Shackleton is a different person. To add further weight, Newholme is only a spit away from Holme House.

[valendale]

Out of interest, what is it that is swaying you away from this William and leading you to the William with Sarah?

[Goughy]

I have to agree with Heywood and valendale.  I, personally, would send for the death certificate Heywood found in 1849. 

March quarter 1849   William Shackleton     Keighley volume 23   page 287

Goughy

[Gibby1968]

It seems that Sarah Shackleton may have been either a legal or perhaps common law wife of William.

The 1849 death is not for the William I am researching.

He is on the 1851 with Sarah while Rose is with James Stell.

As someone said earlier William must have died before Rose's marriage to James Stell as that took place in a church.

[heywood]

Hello again,

We can see you have a firm belief that William who died 1851, with Sarah as informant is yours.
What evidence is there that he is your William.
It just doesn't seem to fit with marriage information, census and death information.

May I ask if you have the 1849 death certificate?
If not, how do you know he isn't yours?
Why do you think your William is the one with Sarah? What evidence is there?

Regards
Heywood

[BumbleB]

To appear in the 1851 census, you must be alive on 30/31 March 1851.

William Shackleton, with Sarah, is alive at the time of the 1851 census - aged 29 - living in Micklethwaite.

William Shackleton died 25 May 1851, and buried 28 May 1851 at Bingley, with informant as Sarah, is said to be aged 30.

Therefore, by a process of elimination, the William Shackleton who is buried 17 March 1849 in Keighley, aged 41, is probably  the William Shackleton who married Rose Hindle. 

[valendale]

I noticed on Ancestry that someone doing the same tree has gone for making the William from Bingley the same William that was from Keighley, I wonder if this is having some baring on things.

[heywood]

I just wish Gibby1968 would share the very strong reasons for the belief that Wlliam died in 1851.

I have just looked at the tree you mention- a couple of questionable records there.