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Sarah Vernon CAMPBELL
« on: Tuesday 30 December 14 07:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello, this is my first post. I have ancestors that have come to New Zealand from Scotland aboard the Duchess of Argyle 1842 , The family of Daniel and Mary CAMPBELL from Paisley. can anybody help me as my gt gt gt grandmother was born aboard the ship, but the shipping passenger list I have read online don't mention her and she is not record as born in NZ. Shona

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Re: Re: Paisley Emigration Society – Scottish Colonisation Company.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 January 15 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Hello Shona.

Happy New Year [2015] to you.

You have signed on, and started a discussion on an old thread of mine, that has been parked up on the COMPLETED BOARD, so I'll ask our Moderator how he would like to handle the issue and get your quest on to the active NZ forum board [possibly with a link to this one].

My computer is so old now, that it does not handle well, all the data that new programmes want to throw at it, so I struggle doing follow up research, and many of the old hands on the board, are excellent at helping / offering advice, and have numerous resources at home, at their finger tips, so can quickly advise you.

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Re: Re: Paisley Emigration Society – Scottish Colonisation Company.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 January 15 18:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi ShonaE, and welcome to RootsChat,

As Fresh Fields has suggested, I can split off your post and subsequent replies to form a new topic.

Can you please reply first, though, and let me know if that's ok with you? I don't want you to suddenly see your post disappear.

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Re: Re: Paisley Emigration Society – Scottish Colonisation Company.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 January 15 20:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi ShonaE,

Here is a link to a transcription of the passenger list.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/DuchessofArgyle.htm

Some background information regarding the voyage.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/VoyageofDuchess.htm

And can you give us the name of your ancestor, please?

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MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
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Re: Re: Paisley Emigration Society – Scottish Colonisation Company.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 January 15 18:30 GMT (UK) »
My ancestors names were listed on the ships manifest as McEwing, Isaac, Janet and Margaret.  But their name is McEwan.  That Scots accent got misunderstood I guess...

I have great admiration for my ancestors.  I noticed that in one post it mentions a few things about the assissted passengers - rations etc.  Very interesting, thank  you.

Angela ;D

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Re: Re: Paisley Emigration Society – Scottish Colonisation Company.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 January 15 03:15 GMT (UK) »
My ancestors names were Daniel & Mary Campbell, on the ship passenger list it list's them with 2 children, My gt gt gt grandmothers birth cert say's she was born at sea. her name was Sarah Vernon CAMPBELL.

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Re: Sarah Vernon CAMPBELL
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 January 15 07:13 GMT (UK) »
Topic split and moved to the New Zealand Board.

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Re: Sarah Vernon CAMPBELL
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 January 15 07:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shona,

According to the surgeon's report there were seven births during the voyage, so presumably Sarah was amongst them.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/SurgeonDuchess.htm

Just curious, but I'm intrigued to know what information was provided in her birth certificate. Could you provide us with a transcription, please?

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HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Sarah Vernon CAMPBELL - Aucklands earliest records
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 January 15 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello ShonaE.

Please add me to SPADES request. You can send the info privately to me by PM if you prefer. From what I’ve researched early Auckland records were few and far between before the c. 1855 civil registration Acts of Parliament in NZ, and in the UK, though from memory I think Scotland lead the pack. Auckland herself was just a baby, and only just starting to grow a governing local bureaucracy.

In the NZ Completed thread you entered RootsChat on, I stated:-

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Our families first recorded NZ [Auckland] baptism was in the Free Presbyterian Church at the end of 1843, however oral history would suggest that the newly married man was very keen that his wife should be off loaded as quickly as possible, so as to give birth in a cleaner and fresher place, than the overcrowded ship. As the family had practised patronymic naming in Scotland, it is a good possibility, but no records survive to prove, or disprove the oral history.

We may groan today about conditions, but don’t really know how lucky we are.

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The reason behind those comments was because in November 1979 I went to the B D & M registrar in down town Auckland. I had phoned and made enquiries first, so they were awaiting my visit. I was taken down stairs to a sub- basement room where I was sat at a small table and handed the original “leather bound” registers. I see I have noted in the margin of my pencil notes that, the deaths entries started in 1848. Of the entries that I transcribed, it was not until the 1870’s before Grand Parent details were recorded. Prior to that, in most cases, only the father was named, unless the Mother’s name was recorded in the margin as the person registering the information. A number had the notation Thomas Bradshaw, Messenger, Provincial Hospital.

I did not find birth entries for the first born after my ancestor’s arrival in 1842, and have had to rely on the Free Presbyterian Church records, for the earliest born in the family, that was to become one of Auckland’s Founding pioneering families.

- Alan.
Early Settlers & Heritage. Family History.